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It,s called the law of sod nobby

I got a few sets of wheels but I,m looking for 2 / 9" x 16" et 11 pentas for the rear of the 450 slc. I have 2/ 9" x 16" et0 but I'm pretty sure they won't fit ideally I want the amg wheels rather than pentas. Has any one out there got 2 spare I could purchase.

Sure looks tight in there fonzi.
 

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It,s called the law of sod nobby

I got a few sets of wheels but I,m looking for 2 / 9" x 16" et 11 pentas for the rear of the 450 slc. I have 2/ 9" x 16" et0 but I'm pretty sure they won't fit ideally I want the amg wheels rather than pentas. Has any one out there got 2 spare I could purchase.

Sure looks tight in there fonzi.
I think the et0 may be perfect. As the wheel width increases the et decreases. 7"=et25, 8"=et11 for our 107s.
 

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I disagree that et0 is ideal for a 9" wheel on the back if a 107. Of course the tire size is quite important, but I think an et0 is very likely to require fender rolling.

I was able to get 225/50/16 tires to fit on 9x16 et10 on the rear of my 73, but there was basically only about 3mm of space before hitting the fender. Sure 245/45/16 would have been the correct tire size, but my 225/50/16 on 8x16 et11 has only about 13-17mm of space before the fender. If you reduce the offset to 0 on even that 8" wheel with those 225/50/16 tires, you are getting darned close, and that's before adding a half inch of width to both sides of the et0 wheel. Then put a wider tire on, and it is sure to not fit.

I do have two Amg ats gen1 Pentas available in 8x16 et11. It would be good to give these two wheels a home.
 

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You are the "wheelman" I was just guessing.
Fotografa (who is incredibly knowledgable) says the same thing about 9" being et0 and something like -10 being the offset for 10", wheels, but I am pretty confident that those wider wheels that Amg made are for widebodies. I think the BBS wheel chart also shows some crazy-low-offset (and wide) 15" wheels for the 107, but they are clearly for a widebody (Koenig?) too.

There looks to be about a half inch of fender that would be quite easy to roll without even changing the exterior appearance of the rear wheel wells. So I am not saying that you can't make 9" et0 fit. if I had a pair you know I would be trying to squeeze them on my 73, and trying to do the minimal fender rolling that I think would be required.
 

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The r107 rear can easily take a 16x9 Et0 ATS Penta rim




The 16x10 was a different story altogether! :eek:

 

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You are the "wheelman" I was just guessing.
The r107 rear can easily take a 16x9 Et0 ATS Penta rim




The 16x10 was a different story altogether! :eek:



What is the tire size on the et0?

It looks to me like the fenders have been rolled... At least in comparison to my 73. The metal on my 73 seems to be angled at about 90 degrees pointing straight towards the tire the full length of the fender. (up front it seems that the factory rolled the fender in at the top ~6", right in the center of the top.
 

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From the centre cap to the outside rim on 8"et11 amg rim is 40mm which leaves about 5mm between my tire and wheel arch.

From the centre cap to the outside rim on the 9"et0 is 60 mm on that baseis I can't see how they can ever fit without altering the bodywork.Therefore looks like Fonzi is right about being for a wide body proberbly sec. I might try to buy an old tire say 245x16 just to confirm.
 

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From the centre cap to the outside rim on 8"et11 amg rim is 40mm which leaves about 5mm between my tire and wheel arch.

From the centre cap to the outside rim on the 9"et0 is 60 mm on that baseis I can't see how they can ever fit without altering the bodywork.Therefore looks like Fonzi is right about being for a wide body proberbly sec. I might try to buy an old tire say 245x16 just to confirm.
20mm sounds about right for the outside difference from 8" et11 to 9" et0.
- 9" et11 would have 1/2" more on each side = ~12.7mm
- slide the 9"et11 wheel out another 11mm to et0 = 11mm
Total difference in "front space" between the wheels = ~23.7mm

The tire is what would hit the fender, and tires can drastically differ.

I believe that Andrew was able to fit the et0 on his car with those rolled fender arches. Perhaps that is the way gen2 cars come from the factory. I don't know, but my rear fenders don't look like that. The metal is a 90 degree angle the whole way.

I think this thread is going to get added to the "how much tire can you stuff in there? - rears" thread if we get a response from Andrew on the tire size on his et0.

Nucci was able to roll his fenders and get 10x17 et17 to fit.
 

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I got 225/50/16 on 9x16 et10 without any fender rolling. That tire was too big for the 225/50/16 I had on the front, at least in my opinion.

How big of a tire You can fit depends on the wheel offset... And width.

Check the "how much tire can you stuff in there? - rears" thread.
 

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There still cheap for amg,s can see them going for good dollars, if they were In uk I would be bidding on them
 
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