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AMG built 1,000 SEL's in 1985? That is not a good first post! AMG has no records (at least that they will share) of any MB's they modified from 1992 or so and earlier. Zero chance of finding that info. Where you got "1,000 of them" is very incorrect. There are no serial or VIN #'s for authentic AMG modified cars from that era - just the original MB VIN #. If you don't have any original paperwork, there is no way to authenticate the car as an original AMG modified car. The only exception would be a car that is so clearly (i.e. heavily modified) with genuine AMG parts, the car would have to be authentic. There are very few of those cars in existence.
 

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These cars were numbered so I am trying to find out where would that number be
This is the original AMG crossover from 1985 plus this car was used in the movies as well
The previous owner who bought that drove it around and not give a shit about it and didn’t keep any records because he didn’t care plus when I bought it the car was in bad shape and been working on it since then,the original AMG wheels were so bad I couldn’t fix them so I upgraded to these
 

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Ok. Give us some more history on the car

Vin number

Engine block number

A few more detailed pictures

What movies was it in

Where was it located/bought from

Show me a carfax
 

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Please define "These cars". Please re-read my post above - in 1985 or any year up until 1991/1992, AMG NEVER put their own serial # or a new VIN # on a car they modified. The original MB VIN is all there is. AMG at that time was an independent tuner of stock MBs - they were not a manufacturer who could change the VIN of a car. The only #'ing AMG did in the 80's related to the DOHC 32v engines that started with a stock M117 block and AMG added their in-house designed quad cam heads to those blocks. On those rare engines, AMG added a stamp onto the valve cover with a sequential #, displacement, engine builder ID #. That's it. If your car has a 32v DOHC M117 AMG engine, please post a picture.

Please define "original AMG crossover" - no clue what that refers to. MB did not take an ownership stake (about 10%) in AMG until 1991/1992 and did not complete the acquisition of 100% of AMG until 1999.

If you really want us to comment on your car, you are going to have to post about 50 pics of the exterior of the car (show the AMG P/N stamp on the front spoiler, the side skirts and maybe rear bumper skirt - can't tell from the pics), engine, suspension (shocks/springs), exhaust, interior. Show pics of the original wheels that you had to swap.
 
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Amg never numbered these cars . You have no idea of amg history .

do you even realize most USA “amg cars” were never modified in Affalterbach , where amg started ?

most USA cars began as a normal Mercedes at a dealership was then shipped to either Beverly Hills Motoring Accessories on west coast , or westmont in Illinois , which were the two authorized amg distributors, to be “converted” to an amg modified car .

Also some people did not want the full amg catalog added to their car , but just the body kit and wheels , and lowered suspension- so many Mercedes dealers and even body shops purchased these parts from the two distributors above and installed them locally .

You had to buy three parts to be able to buy the amg trunk badge . So most people just got body kit , wheels and lowered suspension . Some people got interiors with recaro seats and extra wood . Very few got the modified engines or wide body kits .
 
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