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It remains to be seen how it turns out, but our friends at Auto Union (aka AudiSport) have qualified a pair of American LeMans Prototypes with Tdi engines P1 and 2 for todays 12 hours of Sebring.

Here's hoping the "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" addage holds true and this venture exposes more Americans to the virtues of modern turbo diesels.

All we need to do now is have them run on bio fuels!
(which gets me wondering what diesel "racing fuel" is like....)

Catch some of the action on Speed Channel if you can.

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Hipine - 3/18/2006 4:03 PM
All we need to do now is have them run on bio fuels!
(which gets me wondering what diesel "racing fuel" is like....)

-Dave G.
Alfa Romeo have had their own diesel racing team in europe for some time and they do quite well.
I beleave a good race blend of diesel contains 15% kerosene and 2% methanol.
I know it works darn well in my tractor and gives a cleaner burn.
Illegal on the streets in UK tho.[:)]
 

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Turns out it was!

With an outright win for the Audi, on the rough surface of Sebring, things are looking bright indeed. At the end of the race, the Speed commentators mentioned that Pugeau has plans for a Tdi entry next year.

Then we had to turn over to F1 and watch their literally "billion euro" development effort V8's popping like popped corn through the first two races of this season. So sad.... I'm guessing FIA will either have to scrap the 2-race engine rule or lower the max allowable RPM to stop this fiasco.

Anyway, it looks like a fun season ahead for both series.

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I recall the early 300 turbo diesel MB engine enstalled in the orange two seater experimental car - I saw it at the MB factory a few years ago. I can not recall the details of this landmark speed and endurance run, but the car covered some extreme distance - closed track - in excess of an average speed of 100+ mph. Anyone recall the details?
 

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Thomas.Schumacher - 3/20/2006 5:59 AM

I recall the early 300 turbo diesel MB engine enstalled in the orange two seater experimental car - I saw it at the MB factory a few years ago. I can not recall the details of this landmark speed and endurance run, but the car covered some extreme distance - closed track - in excess of an average speed of 100+ mph. Anyone recall the details?
Was that the C111?
 

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Yep it was the C111
They started the C111 series with a Wankle engine then...

Mercedes struck upon idea of using diesel engines to set speed records and the engineers were sent back to their labs to sort it out. The engine suggested was the five-cylinder three-litre naturally aspirated diesel from the 240 D 3.0 and 300 D, an engine with plenty of potential for raising performance.

With a Garret turbocharger and an intercooler, the production engine’s output of 80 hp was boosted to a proud 190 hp to power the C 111-II. It was rolled out for a record attempt at the brand-new test track in Nardo on June 12, 1976. Four drivers, who took turns at two-and-a-half hour intervals, drove this car from one diesel record to the next over a time-span of 60 hours. In the end, a total of 16 new records had been established - those over 5,000 miles, 10,000 kilometers and 10,000 miles even were absolute world records, i.e. independent of the type of engine. Speed averaged around 150mph. The diesel had proved its ability to race.

(courtesy of PistonHeads.com)

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The diesel saga continued:

C 111-III

The achievements of the second generation model had got Mercedes quite excited by now and they pressed on with the third generation car. It would be a thoroughbred racing car with aerodynamic features refined down to the smallest detail and giving the car a Cd value of 0.183, the lowest rating ever achieved up to that point in time. The car had a longer wheelbase than the C 111-II, a narrower track, concealed wheels, a very low front end with recessed, powerful headlamps and a very long and tapering rear end with a central fin that was to enhance the car’s straightline stability under side wind conditions.

They continued down the diesel route with a turbocharged five cylinder diesel unit. The turbo span at 130,000rpm, pressing enough air into the combustion chambers to boost the output to 230 hp. They were aiming for 200mph!

Finally, on April 30, 1978, the time had come for the diesel-engined record car to drive lap after lap at constant speed on the Nardo track - anti-clockwise because this meant that the crash barriers were on the right-hand side, providing the drivers of the LHD cars with a greater safety margin in the event of an accident.

Hedgehog

At one stage during the night, radio communication saved a hedgehog’s life: it was rescued in time before crossing the racing car’s lane. More drama ensued when the rear tyre on the right-hand side burst during the third driver’s stint at night-time, tearing large holes into the bodywork. The recovery truck arrived on the scene quickly to pick up the damaged car and its uninjured driver, while the mechanics prepared the identical reserve car. After this incident, clocks were reset to zero and the hunt for records began anew.

The reserve car was even a whisker faster than the original car, and also a little more economical, extending the refueling intervals from 62 to 67 laps. The three drivers were soon joined and relieved by their extremely fast project manager, Dr. Hans Liebold.

All records established by the first car were bettered by the reserve car - despite another hedgehog splattering itself on the front spoiler!

After 12 hours of otherwise problem-free driving, Mercedes-Benz had nailed nine new absolute world records its own, i.e. records irrespective of the type of engine and its displacement.

Mark
 

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OK OK 1 more thing, here are the records set by the 5 cyl diesel:

The world records established by the diesel-engined C 111-III:
100 km: 316.484 km/h
100 miles: 319.835 km/h
500 km: 321.860 km/h
500 miles: 320.788 km/h
1000 km: 318.308 km/h
1000 miles: 319.091 km/h
1 hour: 321.843 km/h
6 hours: 317.976 km/h
12 hours: 314.463 km/h
 

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This sounds awfully farmiliar...did you get this from "The Star and The Laurel."? I read the entire book and this sounds like its the same passage.
 

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Audi will field the new R10 TDI at LeMans!!!


this is very exciting!

I would very much like to get a GT3 team going with turbo diesel power.

inspired!

http://www.audi.com/audi/com/en1/experience/motorsport.html


-mserpe
 
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