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Well guys about 8 months ago we bought this BaT 560 SEC from the buyer here in the PNW. Here is the original BaT listing. 57k-Mile Euro 1990 Mercedes-Benz 560SEC . After acquiring this car I found many fundamental issues that needed attention. Once in my possession I noticed some minuscule little bumps in the paint. Hood, roof and trunk lid. Yikes the car had some paintwork. Well after consulting with my longtime friend and SEMA award winning paint and body specialist it was determined the car had indeed had those body parts repainted. At this point I decided I wasn't going to put my name on it until it was "right"! Now is when the story gets interesting and "expensive". We began sanding all the panels mentioned only to find these area's had been painted a couple of times. Both of the previous painting attempts were not by genuine professionals but from some form of "quick and cheap". We found that the first repaint involved a contaminated primer which only grew during time. We sanded and sanded and sanded until we got back to the original base coat/primer. BTW these are really large cars! I commissioned my painter to "make the car correct". Well after weeks of part-time sanding I had him look at what we had and he immediately said "more sanding". Dayumm, this was getting old. So another 10 hours (2 men) of sanding began. We removed everything, rear window, mirrors, all bumpers, cladding, lights, sunroof seal and panel, door handles, All window trim and even the thin chrome trim from the A pillar to the C pillar. Car was stripped of everything that was possible to remove. Keep in mind that this car was never in an accident and "Brandon" the expert spent over 40 hours working the body panels to be "perfect". He mentioned that US cars are never perfect from the factory and that this car was a great unadulterated example. It needed some love. The car is now completely painted with the proper German Glasurit paint. ($1600 in materials). So now the exterior is absolutely stunning and the list of interior "short cuts/hacks" are being addressed. 3 months of searching for correct replacement interior bits has provided all the period correct components are in house. As this will become a long thread there is much more to come. The goal is to bring back an epic 300hp Gen2 SEC to a new level of perfection and passion. Yes the car will remain stock as it was produced in 1990 although I am a bit hesitant to install the original Becker radio. So much goodness available today and these old radios weren't that great 30 years ago. Will I make a bunch of money on this car? No way. Will it become an epic restoration? Yes. BTW, the car has been certified by DOT/EPA and has a California CARB sticker in the door jam. As we all enjoy pics, here are a few. Thanks to everyone for their support over the years and the wealth of information here on BenzWorld. Mike
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nice work

it just needs your touch up and will be perfect

as for the radio, i saw previous was the alpine, a nice option is the new Blaupunkt....its wonderful. We put it in my friends 850ci and 928 builds...
I have clarion m508 which is nice and simple in my sec audio build, which is ok, but what it has nice than the continentals is more audio preout options for sub etc
but the blaupunkt is top choice
 
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nice work

it just needs your touch up and will be perfect

as for the radio, i saw previous was the alpine, a nice option is the new Blaupunkt....its wonderful. We put it in my friends 850ci and 928 builds...
I have clarion m508 which is nice and simple in my sec audio build, which is ok, but what it has nice than the continentals is more audio preout options for sub etc
but the blaupunkt is top choice
I agree on the Blaupunkt unit. It is awesome with what I have seen and read here on the interweb. I have installed about 6 Continentals and they have all worked well but maybe not up to the level of the Clarion or the Blaupunkt. Guess I'll be the first with one of those in an SEC. They just look right!
 

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Beautiful car! Sucks big time about the paint- that's a bummer. But kudos for making it right. That color is amazing - and nice spec

If you need anything (ex: I have mint hazard / air recycle buttons and some other small bits on my eBay) just let me know :)
 

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As I have said to many clients that come into our shop and on this forum. "Are you watching a 30 year old TV? Are your sources of music in your home 30+ years old? Audio technology like cell phones have always been improved from every 6 months to every year. Kind of like engines, modern 4 cylinder engines are producing over 300hp. where as a Mercedes 4 cylinder engine (190e) was throwing down 130hp. My DD is a 1987 300td wagon and the benefit of having radio with hands free phone, bluetooth etc. is becoming addictive. Modern miracles of science and technology.
 

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Beautiful restoration. I have a ‘86 with 47k. I love the car. Regarding the head unit, I sent mine back to Becker for refurbishment to include Bluetooth. I can now stream from by phone, but it doesn’t work as a speakerphone. That doesn’t really bother me since mine is not a DD. Also, if I were to upgrade the head unit, I’d want to upgrade the speakers. The rear speaker covers tend to be VERY brittle, even if the car has been garaged. Also the rear speaker mounts don’t easily accommodate different speakers. Adding auxiliary speakers or a sub impacts the originality too much for me. At reasonable volume I get pretty good sound out of the original set up. Certainly not audiophile quality level, but that is lost anyway when you have the windows down and the breeze in your hair.
Either way, you have a beauty to enjoy forever.
 

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Brother Mike - Amazing, love that car and really enjoyed the BaT auction too, glad you're working your "magic" on it. Curious what would be the ball park cost, if an owner walked off the street and asked for a quote based on all the work you've completed?
 

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Better that this car fell in your hands than anyone else since you are spending the time, effort and money to restore it the right way. Looking forward to seeing the full restoration.

Your purchasing experience calls for caution in acquiring cars on BAT and I would now be more hesitant than ever unless the seller has an impeccable record.
 

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The BAT sale clearly mentioned the repaint and its issues
BAT did disclose the car was repainted and seller did disclose "Its (sic) has some chips and nics, nothing dramatic . The paint is nice and has great luster. " Didn't matter what anyone said, the paint had more issues than just nics and pics as Magic found out. Had he seen the paint and finish in person, he would have walked away. It was a shoddy job.
 

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@slownrusty, the total cost hasn't been calculated at this point as the car needs to be re-assembled. (with care) But my gutt tells me about $10k +/- would be a number I would assign to a budget. As far as disclosure on the paint condition when it sold a couple years ago is "water over the dam" in my book. Believe me I could have just repainted the hood, trunk and roof but that's not proper. The issue would pop back up at a later time for its future caretaker. Most important is the car did not and will not have any rust issues.
 
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BTW, this is the same BAT seller who succeeded in unloading this 1991 SEC the second time around for $29.5k. His first attempt got him $10k less and it was RNM. This too had repaint done to hood, roof and trunk lid exactly what @magicbigdaddy chose not to do simply because it wasn't good enough. Not implying anything about the seller, just sheer coincidence perhaps.

 

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I will say that after acquiring this car and reviewing the photos provided by the seller to BaT it was obvious that many flaws/blemishes were not captured in the large photo album found in the listing. Clever photography and angles had been considered by the seller. All that is history and my "Sonderklasse" build/restore is exciting and rewarding every day of this project. Although I feel the car is worthy and capable of exceeding 150 mph I don't think this old guy will be behind the wheel for that experience. Putting it back together without breaking something will take skill and patience. Now I need to allocate some funds for one of those bad boy Blaupunkt radios.
 

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BTW, this is the same BAT seller who succeeded in unloading this 1991 SEC the second time around for $29.5k. His first attempt got him $10k less and it was RNM. This too had repaint done to hood, roof and trunk lid exactly what @magicbigdaddy chose not to do simply because it wasn't good enough. Not implying anything about the seller, just sheer coincidence perhaps.


and whats interesting is the black on that last yr was a solid low mile that sold for 31, and the buy murdered it out bad and could not meet reserve at 27 now
 

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The sticker is more than half the battle, it’s almost the whole battle. Cats are, at the end of the day, gadgets that the muffler shop puts on for smog tests. Whereas getting BAR approval for a Euro 560 is witchcraft :)
 
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