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Heres my entire history with this truck!
I have recently added a 1998 ML320.
This site has been very helpful for me over the past and even recently when I purchased the ML.
After purchasing the ML and driving it home which was a 300 mile trip I quickly discovered it had some issues mainly when you put your foot into it would lose power not accelerate.

After traveling 60 miles to home we got a hotel room, it was Sunday and decided to stay near where we purchased it in case we needed to undo the deal. After getting checked in I googled my issue and was lead again here to a thread on MAF, which made me feel better about the issue .

The next morning I took the truck in and had it coded at a local parts store.
I had 9 code 7 of which were misfires, 1 Oxygen sensor and the last one tank pressure. Convinced it wasn't a major issue we struggled the truck home.
Once home I discovered another issue the ignition didn't alway like the key. The Key does have some were on it after being stranded to the point I call a lock smith all of which said they wouldn't touch a Benz I was left with only the nearest Benz dealer , they were very helpful in giving me advise that worked in getting the key to work, but it would appear that either the key is warn down or the cylinder or key lock ring needs to be replaced.
Following the advice of my parts store I started with replacing the spark plugs,and cleaning the MAF and again this site proved very valuable in getting that done, there was improvement but it was still misfiring and I was getting no other codes other than miss firing. The parts store recommended a local repair shop that specialized in Benz's and BMW's I took the truck over to him the guy was great he had a proper code reader he told me to still replace the MAF and replace the wires. So I ordered in a new set of wires and a MAF from Amazon. The parts came in yesterday we continued to drive the truck and it's performance seemed to improve, however on a couple of occasions it acted like it needed a jump, I chalked that up to the fact the ground cable was loose and the bolts for it needed to be replaced . however the only way we were able to actually get it started was to manipulate the security buttons on the key.

After replacing the MAF and wires the truck seemed to have over come it's lack of power, however I did get a ruff idle and a code so I took it to the parts store for a code it came back that cylinders 1-3 were miss firing and they recommended I check to make sure I didn't cross any of the wires. When I got back and checked it I did have cylinder 2 wires crossed I disconnected the ground from the battery and reconnected the wires, now we got to where I am now. The truck would start but turn right off just as quick as it started. after struggling with this I ran the battery down so I put it on the charger and search here where I came upon a thread by someone who's truck would die after five minute of running and in one post someone recommended to them to reset the computer by completely disconnecting the battery and placing the key in the number 2 position which in the end for her was what the dealer did to solve their problem, this of course did not solve mine finally I removed the battery took it to my parts store along with the ground cable to repair it, they put a full charge on it as we watched the battery test the tech thought everything was looking good in fact before the test was done he said the battery is fine , but when the test completed the tester coded bad! I went home reinstalled it , it had no problem turning over the engine but again the truck turns off as quickly as it starts ... Help!!!!

So there is the complete history of events can anyone give me some sound advise on what I do next?
 

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If the ML starts and immediately dies then you have a bad DAS (Driver Authorization Syatem) transponder in the key. If you have a spare key try that to see if it will start and continue to run. If the key was in the ingntion when you disconnected or reconnected the battery or when the battery died, you probably fried the key. This was a particular problem with the early ML's.

Many MAF's sold on Ebay are no good. The only good source for MAF's are a Mercedes dealer and one or two Mercedes specialist distributors which sponser this forum.
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If the ML starts and immediately dies then you have a bad DAS (Driver Authorization Syatem) transponder in the key. If you have a spare key try that to see if it will start and continue to run. If the key was in the ingntion when you disconnected or reconnected the battery or when the battery died, you probably fried the key. This was a particular problem with the early ML's.

Many MAF's sold on Ebay are no good. The only good source for MAF's are a Mercedes dealer and one or two Mercedes specialist distributors which sponser this forum.
Mike
Yeh I was hoping it wasn't the key... but the more I read the more likely it is the dealer said the key is 119 and 55 to program it plus the tow to get it there for the programing ..
Unfortunately I don't have a spare!
 

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Yeh I was hoping it wasn't the key... but the more I read the more likely it is the dealer said the key is 119 and 55 to program it plus the tow to get it there for the programing ..
Unfortunately I don't have a spare!
Unfortunately only the dealer can program a new key. Whatever you do DO NOT buy a spare key on Ebay. That price is very good. The dealer is being very nice to you. I have heard key prices of $400++ and $75+ to program the key.

Ask the dealer how many keys you have left. The 98 ML can only have 8 keys programmed into the DAS system, including all past keys used. You may also want to get a Valey Key. You should really have at least one spare key for your ML.
Mike

VALET KEY
 

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If the ML starts and immediately dies then you have a bad DAS (Driver Authorization Syatem) transponder in the key. If you have a spare key try that to see if it will start and continue to run. If the key was in the ingntion when you disconnected or reconnected the battery or when the battery died, you probably fried the key. This was a particular problem with the early ML's.........
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Sorry to hear about your problem.

I totally agree with Mike.
 

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Thanks for giving me confidence in spending more on this key, I fear whats around the next corner I don't even know if uncrossing the wires solved my problem God I hope so.. Great advise on the valet key!!!
Funny thing is when I took it in to get re coded when I turned it back on it ran great all the way home no ruff idle. But I still looked it over and uncross the one set I could see were crossed.
I know I didn't pay much for it 3,800 but but besides what was already disclosed as needed to be fixed to have these other issues jump at me makes me almost regret buying it. Yeh yeh I know I bought it on ebay from a used car dealer in Ohio who at times seems like he wants to work with me even talked to his partner last night, they claim they will re-embruse me some moneys and are trying to find the other key but at the same time want me to cancel the online purchase so they don't have to pay the seller fee. I've tried every number for them today no answer and I certainly won't cancel the ebay until I have some resolution to this. They sell a ton of cars online so I guess we'll find out how much their reputation matters to them!

Heres a copy of the email I sent them..

Dear garagebin,

Ok after paying 110.00 heres the verdict on the ml.. the spark
plugs were completely shot as are the original wires... the mass
air senor was part of the problem as well as it was shot causing
the 11 miles to a gallon we got in gas milage .. untill I get the
other key I'm not going to know weather I will need to replace
the tumbler or the out ring those items I will have no choice but
to buy them from MB, cost not as much as one would think but
labor is going to be a bitch on that one.. in the end to make the
truck drivable and as it was rep, it's going to cost me 150. for
the mass flow . 220.00 for the wires.. I've already spent 80 on
spark plugs. Keep in mind if I bought the part as EOM it would
be triple that and if I had a dealer do the repairs we'd be talking
about 1500 to 2000..not to include staying sunday in Ohio ..
now I'm doing all the labor plus I paid to have the check up.. so
whats do you feel is fair here?
any advise on proceeding with these guys would be very much welcomed!
 

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Ok got the new key and now it stays running but only 1000 rmp's wtf?? any help here ???

and acts like it has no power!
I think there is a procedure for resetting the throttle position sensor. Hopefully someone that knows more about that will answer your question. It also sounds a little like it could be the MAF again.
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I think there is a procedure for resetting the throttle position sensor. Hopefully someone that knows more about that will answer your question. It also sounds a little like it could be the MAF again.
Mike
Well I kept the old one so if that is the case I put that back in , the dealership hadn't programed the key the parts guy I think didn't know. It's being towed to the dealer right now to have the key programed thats the only thing I can think of .. the MAF is new and was working fine before the key went bad.
 

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Oh yeh my local guy had me check the throttle by manually pulling on it he said if the engine didn't rev it's more than likely in in limp mode ... when I pulled on the throttle it didn't rev...
 

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Ok got the new key and now it stays running but only 1000 rmp's wtf?? any help here ???

and acts like it has no power!
This thread is two pages long now. There is not one mention of codes or any diagnostics.

Time to reload parts shotgun and shoot again. Shorten barrels a little. It provides better spread.:)
 

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This thread is two pages long now. There is not one mention of codes or any diagnostics.

Time to reload parts shotgun and shoot again. Shorten barrels a little. It provides better spread.:)

1580 there is the last code , right now there is no codes, it's at the dealership having the key programed and taken out of limp mode .. so maybe soon I'll have some codes for you.
 

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only code left according to the dealership is lamp switch, what it needed was throttle programed..

119 for the key 55 for programing the key 55 for programing throttle... so 240 plus taxes..
 

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If it started and continued to run, even at low RPM's the key does not need to be programmed. I thought you stated that you already got new key and programming (Post #9)? I'm confused.
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If it started and continued to run, even at low RPM's the key does not need to be programmed. I thought you stated that you already got new key and programming (Post #9)? I'm confused.
Mike
No I stated I order a key .. the key coding is for it to work with the locks, it started the truck, however the throttle needed to be reprogramed thats why it wouldn't rev...
 
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