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25mm "DLA" Spacers from H&R installed.
Spacers bolt to the hub. Wheel bolts to the spacer. All hardware included with their kit.

Before 2012-08-29_18-09-19_433.jpg

After, but they rubbed on bumps.
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I used the Beastie Boys fender rolling system with MRAMAYs guidance:
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Happy camper.
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Looks great! what width/offset are your wheels? What bolts did you use?
 

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I dont know the wheel specs. They came on the car when my Dad bought it 25 years ago.
These spacers come with bolts attaching the spacer to hub and the stock wheel bolts attach wheel to spacer.

Very nice quality. But 20mm is probably the right size vs 25mm. Might machine these down.
 

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Those shoes are better than Viagra.... Just sayin.

Where are your wipers?
 

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Understand that. I painted my grille last week and today I painted my surrounds for the headlights the same color. I looked at yours and saw that your eye lashes were missing lol.
 

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looking pretty good! i have 35mm offset on my new monoblocks so also need spacers. hope mine turn out looking just as good!
 

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I think they look fantastic in the back, maybe a little much in the front - perhaps 15mm would do or even 20mm as you suggested. Keep the rear as is!!
 

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There is NO spacer in front. Just the rear.

I swear it handles bumps nicer in back, but that seems like crazy talk.
 

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Can you guys PLEASE help me find the spacers i need. Iv searched the forum for part #'s, cant find it. The H&R's are hard to find and when i do, they list very specific mercedes models never including the W126. I called RAD here in california and they said their spacer wont fit the 560sec becaue of the grease cap, even though I know members are using them. I bought some AMG replicas 18x8 and 18x9, 35et all around. I attached a photo. PLEASE someone send me in the right directions. Im looking for 20mm spacers. Maybe 15mm in the front but I thinking of 20mm all around.
 

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Hey. Hate to bring up a old thread, but it beats starting a new one asking for the same thing.


Ok, so im thinking I want to put spacers on my 560sel.

Ive been looking at the H&R spacers, seeing that they look to be the best quality ones on the market. I am planning to do just the rear on my car.
I have 9x18 ET35 monoblock 2 on my car for the rear. And ive been eying the 25mm H&R spacers, because from what I could find.. 25mm+ spacers have the threaded nutsert in the spacer. 20mm and less requires a longer bolt. I would prefer to go with the nutsert spacer..

With that said, would 25mm be too much?. Right now the car has 265 35 18 Pirelli in the rear, and I get slight inside rubbing when the suspension raises after a bump on the inner bump-stop. I will be lowering the car with H&R springs soon, but I think it would look better with spaced out rears. Problem is, the car is too high to measure the outside fender gap, and as I could see right now. 25mm.. 1" looks to be too much.

The H&R number I found is 50556651. Plus, I found a awesome deal here in Canada on a set, so you can guess im tempted to jump on them. I have a full machine shop if by chance I need to shave them down a few mm, but I would prefer not to touch them at all.

Any insight would be great :grin
 

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35mm Offset plus the 20 mm would make it 45MM total offset. correct me if I am wrong (its been a while since I had my 420SEL) but they start with a lower offset stock wheel.
that might be close to being too much.

I might be wrong
 

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35mm Offset plus the 20 mm would make it 45MM total offset. correct me if I am wrong (its been a while since I had my 420SEL) but they start with a lower offset stock wheel.
that might be close to being too much.

I might be wrong
Adding a 20mm spacer would yield an offset of 15mm. The spacers will push the rim closer to the fender.

I think thats a great setup for the rear, with an effective setup of 18x9 ET10 (Possibly needed to roll the fender) - upfront I would go with a 10-15mm spacer giving you ET25/20 (closer to AMG spec 18's for the r129 which share AMG OZ specs). I've had 16x9 ET upfront and had rubbing issues (Granted, fenders not rolled).

The OZ 17in. rims are 8.5 ET18, if you're going wider and a larger diameter you'll want a slightly higher offset...

This is a cool tool that tells you how much clearance you have, etc. Pretty useful: Wheel Offset Calculator | 1010Tires.com Discount Online Tire and Wheel Store
 

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Yes, thanks

Im hunting for H&R springs as soon as I can for my car, I know once its lowered ill easily be able to measure the clearance. but right now, its all but a guess. One thing I noticed is that, from the looks of it, the lip is not the limiting factor in my car. I don't know if this is different between the SEL and SEC's.. but it looks like the inner fender comes in slightly above the lip.
Ill go out to the shop in a few, and take a look again.


Front wise, the rims are 8x18 ER31's w 235-40's.. so I was looking to possibly put a 5 or 10mm spacer just to space things out a bit. Everything clears, but I did have slight rubbing under full lock. Don't know where it hits yet. And this is all experimental until I lower it.

I seriously cant wait.. car is going to look sweet and I get to keep the SLS!:devil

This is how she sits as of last week. Definitely needs to go down..
 

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I put H&Rs on my SEC with 25mm adapters and love it. You will too. OK, time for some education from the fine folks here. I have what I call "adapters" on the rear of the SEC, the aluminum disks that bolt to the hub, with studs sticking out that the rims then bolt to. I also have "spacers" on the SEL, the aluminum disks that have the lip extending out that the rim sits upon (hubcentric) and I use long bolts (almost 50mm) to attach the rims and spacers to the hub.

What's the preferred terms for the "bolt to the hub then bolt the rim to the disk" vs the "use long bolts with the aluminum disk and do the rim and disk at the same time" thing??
 

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What's the preferred terms for the "bolt to the hub then bolt the rim to the disk" vs the "use long bolts with the aluminum disk and do the rim and disk at the same time" thing??

Well. H&R describes the difference as their "DR" and "DRA" series.
The DR being just a spacer that you need to use longer bolts to attach the wheel.

The DRA is a spacer with threadserts installed.. in which you bolt your rim to the spacer, and the spacer gets bolted to the hub.

I would consider the term "Adaptor" used when a spacer has different bolt pattern on it to accommodate non factory bolt pattern rims. :grin



On a side note.. I found that H&R also has a 20mm spacer "DRA" style, although not listed when you select W126 on their site, it seems like it has the proper center hole dimensions, and is the same as the listed 25mm adaptor which works on the rears of these cars. I might end up ordering those instead... The P/N# is 40556653 for reference.


The man reason I want to try my best to use the DRA style is because, I have the factory MB lug bolts that go with these monoblock 2's. and they look factory correct. They would just thread into the spacers.
 

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I have been buying H&R spacers and multiple lugs from achtuning.com. They are local for me, but their prices appear to be the best in the US. Great customer service! Everyone that works there is a "car guy". True enthusiasts! As they specialize in Audi/VW, they also have the stuff we need for MB's.
 

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Well I have decided to buy lowering springs and shocks before getting spacers.
So far, ive decided on the following combo.. Let me know what you guys think. :grin
-H&R 52759 sport springs.
-Bilstein 24-015356 B8 sport shocks for the front.
I plan on keeping the SLS in the rear on this setup.

Once I install that combo, then onto the spacers, which will obviously be the H&R ones, they look to be a quality product from what I can see. Im only slightly concerned about the harsher ride from the bilstein B8's, but if I wanted comfy floaty boaty, Ill drive my 420.. lol.. Im just wondering how harsh are the B8's?

Also, took the beauty out for some pics today after a day of compounding and sealing. Definitely needs to be lowered; way too much fender gap.
 

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