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According to a 2006 350 Ml for sale on ebay, the dealer is saying the release date is 3/16/05. To see the listing use

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6337&item=4535274649&rd=1

The car for sale is a 350 but the pictures seem to be of a 500.
 

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Interesting that the starting price exactly equals the base ML350 MSRP, and the vehicle is announced as being absolutely loaded: Sport Package Comfort Package Lighting Package Entertainment Package
Apperance Package Air Suspension Sunroof Package DVD Command Navigation System
Sirus Satellite Radio Aluminum Trim Heated Front Seats - at a converted 29,600 EUR this is, well, a "wee bit" less than the 51,103 EUR I'm going to have to pay for my ML320CDI. Hell, at that price I could even live with fake leater and Alcantara seats, and with some 20 grand to pay for gas, I'd even accept that it wants lead free @ around 1.20 EUR per litre.

Thanks, sheepdog - it was a nice mirage while it lasted [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]

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(who resisted getting a plane ticket to Alabama [;)])
 

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sheepdog - 3/14/2005 9:43 AM

According to a 2006 350 Ml for sale on ebay, the dealer is saying the release date is 3/16/05. To see the listing use

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6337&item=4535274649&rd=1

The car for sale is a 350 but the pictures seem to be of a 500.
Previous discussion on release/pricing


The eBay one looks just like the photos from this thread by Rodney at the same dealership. Look at the VIN number too....very low.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1203173&posts=5&fid=52
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1203172&posts=9&fid=52

EDIT: It is the same ML. Checkout the tag.[:)]
 

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the ml(500) in the picture is not the ml(350) that is for sale. read the seller's description carefully and you will see his disclaimer.
 

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The one on EBay

- yep, AutoSaurus, it seems to be the same vehicle.

and that kind of "relativizes" the sellers claim of 10 miles on EBay - I mean if Rodney drove it for 45 minutes, it would hardly have 10 miles total anymore.

Anyhow, for early adopters this might be quite a good offer - meanwhile I've studied the costs of "EU'izing" this W164, and even though the price IS attractive, I stand down.

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rodney DIDN'T drive the one that is for sale. true that rodney drove the one that is pictured in the ebay listing. however, 'rodney's drive' is being used solely for advertising the one that is actually for sale; the two svus are different. i cannot answer why the seller has not posted a picture of the svu that is actually for sale.

at the risk of repeating my earlier post, "the ml(500) in the picture is not the ml(350) that is for sale. read the seller's description carefully and you will see his disclaimer."
 

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I think my post caused a little confusion....

The ML posted is the one that Rodney drove AND the one listed is noted as being a different one for sale.

I don't want the seller to think we were short changing him and trying to make it appear that the auction was not on the up and up.

so with that said....check all the photos that are listed of the 500.
 

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Birger - 3/14/2005 10:23 AM

Interesting that the starting price exactly equals the base ML350 MSRP
So does base MSRP include delivery, or not?
 

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Ebay Sale - again

Hi,

I tried to contact the seller via e-mail, and got this back:

Arrival-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:31:50 +0100

Final-Recipient: rfc822;[email protected]
Action: failed
Status: 5.5.0
Diagnostic-Code: smtp;553 Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?147.67.241.6


Smells a little fishy to me - it's the first time ever I have had a failed delivery and that I'm implicitly being accused of spamming (see the link to spamcop).

I have re-sent the message via Hotmail - let's see what happens.

BTW, enough people are biting that the bidding has gone up to 41K, but the minimum is still not met..

Bye for now,
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Interesting that there is already a 2nd 2006 ML for sale on ebay at $1000 below MSRP.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6337&item=4535866388&rd=1.

The Alabama dealer has now listed in detail the options on 2 that he has available to deliver on 3/23.
 

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why would they sell a car that has not even been released to the public yet for $1k under invoice? what am i missing? incentive to be the first dealer to sell one? i'm confused ,,,
 

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ajm0623 - 3/15/2005 7:15 PM

why would they sell a car that has not even been released to the public yet for $1k under invoice? what am i missing? incentive to be the first dealer to sell one? i'm confused ,,,
It's a $1000 under MSRP not invoice...big difference.

I'll stick with my $750 over invoice for now.
 

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2006 Release date & Ebay Sale + another one available

Hi,

Looks like I have to have my remote company e-mail checked, because Mark promptly replied to the mail I sent him via Hotmail, asking if he had any other W164's for immediate delivery (BTW, the current high bidder for the one on Ebay is from Germany [;)]).

Well, it turns out he has:

I actually have another one that
is available it is a ML-350 Iridium Silver with the Ash leather twin and
has the Brown Birds Eye Maple Wood,Trim package,Entertainment
package,Sunroof package,DVD Command Navigation,Sirius Satellite
radio,trailer hitch,and heated seats. The price is 48147.50.

Unforunately this price plus transportation, customs, and conversion to EU standards brings the final total too close to what I'm getting my W164 for that I'm not interested (unleaded is up to 6.30 $ per gallon over here), but if anyone's interested, here's the tip.

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"It's a $1000 under MSRP not invoice...big difference.

I'll stick with my $750 over invoice for now."
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Hey,
Do you think it will be possible to get 2006 ML350 for $750 over invoice in a first few months into production?
 

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aleveran - 3/16/2005 1:40 PM

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"It's a $1000 under MSRP not invoice...big difference.

I'll stick with my $750 over invoice for now."
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Hey,
Do you think it will be possible to get 2006 ML350 for $750 over invoice in a first few months into production?
Mine will be ordered with a early summer delivery can't say that about inventory on the lot though.
 

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aleveran - 3/16/2005 2:19 PM

I assume there should be no difference in price (price negotiations) between “on the lot� and “factory delivery� cars. Am I right?
As far MSRP...No. It's not like European delivery.

FYI: I just found out that the Factory Museum and Tours are temporarily closed for the final phase of the plant expansion. I'm waiting on an email from my factory delivery specialist to tell clarify whether Factory Deliveries are still an option at this time.

http://www.mbusi.com
 

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I assume there should be no difference in price (price negotiations) between “on the lot� and “factory delivery� cars. Am I right?
Typically, if you order a vehicle vs. buying from dealer stock, you lose an edge in the negotiation. I know Crown (the Birmingham dealer selling the vehicle on Ebay) has a policy that any vehicle ordered is sold for "MSRP at time of delivery". There are many reasons for this. First of all, you are probably ordering a vehicle that is different from the “usual� dealer stock, otherwise they would either have it or could easily locate it. This means that there is some risk for the dealer in that if you decide not to buy it, they now could be stuck with something that’s harder to sell (i.e. too much equipment, too little, strange color, etc.) Also, if they can get you to buy from stock, they spend less money financing their floorplan, so they can afford to negotiate a little more. Finally, orders must come from their allocations, and having a vehicle come in at some future date that is already sold means one less vehicle on the lot to be sold. IOW, they could end up like they did with the SLK’s and not have any on the lot to demo. It’s harder to sell a car to someone that’s never driven it.

Having said all that, if you want to order (and do a factory delivery once they reinstate that program), then you need to simply get on the phone and start calling. Keep in mind that you don’t have to buy from a dealer in your area – you can even go out of state. Let the dealers know what you are doing and that you are buying strictly on price. You will find a deal.

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OK, here’ the scoop on the Ebay auction from Crown. The ML pictured is in fact the ML500 that I drove, but it’s only being used for demonstrative purposes because the dealership does not actually have any vehicles in stock. They expect them by the weekend. That ML500 is a “mule� being driven by a factory exec that was kind enough to loan it to Crown for a few days. The vehicle will eventually be destroyed when it has outlived its usefulness.

They have over 20 ML’s pre-ordered by customers, but they also have three or four due in that are unallocated. They will likely be sold very quickly. The Ebay auction is simply a way to get people to contact the dealership. This is just a marketing tactic. Of course there’s nothing wrong with that, but you just need to know what it is. They want you to call so that they can try to sell you a car – not necessarily the on in the auction – just any car. That’s their business.

Crown is a reputable dealer. I know most everyone that works there (sales, service, and management) because I worked there. Yes, one of the things I always wanted to try from the “inside� was selling cars. It was a lot of fun, but too much work for too little reward. Other than them being a typical car dealership (i.e. being in the business of making a huge profit by selling cars), there is nothing wrong with them. In fact, their current sales manager is really turning things around. He will actually negotiate on most models where before, they had long history of demanding MSRP – even when they seemed desperately overstocked. I bought all my MBZ’s prior to working there and I did not buy from Crown because of their lack of negotiation. With their new management philosophy, I would recommend them. In fact, if anyone wants to buy from them, PM me and I’ll give you a reference and even what help I can in getting a good deal.


- RODNEY
 
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