[GregW / Oregon]

Here's a promising teaser for a comparison test in Autocar this month--"Mercedes M-class off-roader has gone from chronic underachiever to best-in-class."

http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/news_article.asp?na_id=213986

 

[RezaR1]

Great!! Now they will add another $5000 to the MSRP cuz of this article.[}]

 

[ccweems]

Do you really take comfort in the fact that it is better than an old X5, a car based XC90 or a Toureg that lives in the shop? When the ML came out there was nothing like it. The 164 is at best a "me too" product. I'm really disappointed.

 

[GregW / Oregon]

ccweems - 3/11/2005 5:02 AM

Do you really take comfort in the fact that it is better than an old X5, a car based XC90 or a Toureg that lives in the shop? When the ML came out there was nothing like it. The 164 is at best a "me too" product. I'm really disappointed.

Uhhh...what do you want, exactly? The new ML ups the perceived competition in all repsects (styling, I know, is totally personal). So, bettter performance, economy, drag coeefficient, more power, better safety, better steering feel, better quality, better on-road comfort and handling are not enough for you? Exactly what dissapoints you?

 

[jjl1]

no Lexus in the test??

without a Lexus RX330 in the test, it's not really a complete test. the RX was obviously the ML's target (used to be the other way around). i know, autocar is a euro mag., but still, if the ML can't beat those 3 than it should pack it in...

btw, i'm getting an '06 ML.

 

[GregW / Oregon]

RE: no Lexus in the test??

jjl1 - 3/20/2005 6:18 PM

without a Lexus RX330 in the test, it's not really a complete test. the RX was obviously the ML's target (used to be the other way around). i know, autocar is a euro mag., but still, if the ML can't beat those 3 than it should pack it in...

btw, i'm getting an '06 ML.

Does Lexus have a diesel?

 

[jjl1]

my bad, didn't notice it was a diesel-only test..

still, i want to read a RX-ML comparo review, not that it would change my mind about getting the ML.

 

[Drew]

RE: no Lexus in the test??

GregW / Oregon - 3/20/2005 6:46 PM

Does Lexus have a diesel?

No, not as far as I know. That was obviously one of the criterion to qualify.

Make mine a diesel ML with the ALU-BEAM paint, hk sound system, nav, 18" wheels, power tailgate, active Bi-Xenons, and Airmatic []

 

[jjl1]

i would love that exact same configuration myself.

question - the name of that color is alubeam? is that going to be avail. on the 350 in the states? beautiful color. how do you think it would look with a black interior/appearance package? i think the appearance package interior trim would look better with a black interior than a cream interior. I'm still waiting to see the various color options, especially with the appearance package.

 

[woodyww]

RezaR1 - 3/11/2005 2:29 AM

Great!! Now they will add another $5000 to the MSRP cuz of this article.[}]

You're too late, M-B already has. [] Just about everything that was standard equipment on the W163 ML500 is now an option on the W164 including the navigation system AND, get this, side air bags for the rear passengers.