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I have seen several posts on this...and I think putting together a kit or parts list would be nice - So I am.

So far I have tracked down longer front shocks and possibly found a vendor to make new torsion bars. I am still looking into rear shocks other than bilstein and springs to go along with them.

In addition to this suspension upgrade kit - I would like to put together a bushing kit and body lift kit for those persons so inclined to do so.

Any suggestions, questions, or concerns would be appreciated.

I am looking to stay under $1,000 for all the parts in the suspension kit. Additionally I will look into a "budget" kit once I find peices to do so.
 

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I have seen several posts on this...and I think putting together a kit or parts list would be nice - So I am.

So far I have tracked down longer front shocks and possibly found a vendor to make new torsion bars. I am still looking into rear shocks other than bilstein and springs to go along with them.

In addition to this suspension upgrade kit - I would like to put together a bushing kit and body lift kit for those persons so inclined to do so.

Any suggestions, questions, or concerns would be appreciated.

I am looking to stay under $1,000 for all the parts in the suspension kit. Additionally I will look into a "budget" kit once I find peices to do so.
Awesome thats great! I really hoped someone would do this.
 

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If Brian says he's gonna do it he will! We are gonna use some of the suspension pulling out my ML since I'm parting it out to try to get some specs on it too!

I still think that we need to make some Mercedes symboled truck nuts for lifted MLs also :)
 

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If Brian says he's gonna do it he will! We are gonna use some of the suspension pulling out my ML since I'm parting it out to try to get some specs on it too!

I still think that we need to make some Mercedes symboled truck nuts for lifted MLs also :)
Nice, Im excited to hear what you guys come up with.
 

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You don't need any special tortion bars to raise the front end very high. I have posted about how I removed the rear adjustment on the tortion bars and repositioned them by 3 splines and could raise my ML 8". The problem is the lower control arms are too short and as you go higher it brings the wheels inboard about 4" on each side and looks stupid and is probably unsafe.

The same thing happens to the rear. The higher you go the more the wheels go inboard. Because of the uneven "A" arms

I have gone as high as an ML can go without completely changing the suspension.

I am considering making longer control arms out of chromoly. I have even considered putting a real 4 wheel drive transfer case and straight axles to make a real 4x4 out of an ML.
 

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Yeah...I'll put the DIY together with pictures and hopefully video...got an HD Camcorder a while ago and I need a good reason to use it.

Rude...I looked for hours yesterday and the day before at all the posts about lifted trucks...I might have read your posts but nothing is coming to mind. I was thinking about 2" solid around the truck would be sufficient for most people...possible making a 4" lift kit - just to see if I can. I do realize that if we lift the truck...larger tires are also key to a higher stance. I figured the lower control arms would hold me up - but wasn't sure as I have just started. If that is the case...I know of a shop that could "mass produce" but I would need to fab something up.

Jeff is willing to help get me started with shock specs for the rear and also to get ideas flowing - and yes...he mentioned "truck nutz" with a Benz emblem...hilarious IMO. In addition, Jeff is also helping me put together an over head console to replace the one in the ML - it would include moved switches and a DIN sized slot for CB radio or scanner - something necessary for any off roading adventure :)

Once again, I really appreciate everyone's input - and I look forward to completing this for the enthusiasts such as myself
 

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excited for this.. do you have a time frame your reaching for to accomplish this so we have something to look forward too?? :):D:):D
 

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So far I have found the extended front shocks and Rude has informed me of HOW to get more lift up front...although it's not a good idea without newly fabbed parts. I think within 2 months I could have a complete system if not, at least mostly complete.

As for the overhead console delete for Scanner...I completed that yesterday and I will be painting it today.
 

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oh no, custom fab stuff,
i was hoping that you could locate the kits, but youre getting too serious for me.
i was hoping for lift blocks you put on the front struts, torsion bar lift, and lift springs for the rear.
permanent changes to the chassis of the ml-> even lower resale value
 

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Permanent Changes? I was refering to new Control Arms...something that would be "bolted" on. lol
 

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Permanent Changes? I was refering to new Control Arms...something that would be "bolted" on. lol
Remember with longer control arms you will also need longer cv axles, different steering linkage and longer shocks... That's why I told you that tightening the tortion bars in the front all the way is as good as it gets before you start having to make serious changes... And costing serious money... For the rear just put fender washes under the rear shock as I have. Never had a problem with them.
 

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I also tried repositioning the tortion bars (after being advised by Rudedude not to i might add! should have listened but had to see for myself! :p) I also ended up with the same results (wheels in too far and the ride was terrible!) I dont see how any major amount of lift could be acheived without major mods and a shitload of cash. If you guys can figure something out i'd be EXTREMELY happy as i've got a brand new set of 35" swampers i'd love to put on my ml!
 

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That's the idea...I am trying to source parts that are already in exsistence...like the longer Front Shocks...since the F-150 uses the same shock but longer...it would work for this application. Rude has been pivitol in assisting with the lift process and I am putting his suggestions to work. The Control Arms would need to be made...because I cannot find another with similar specs...however longer CV axles should be easy.

Rude...if I may...why would I need different steering linkage for 4" of lift up front? I gathered from your post that you managed to get 8" without swapping that. Granted...you didn't keep it...but I thought you had done it.

Honestly guys, If I can't get this lift kit put together...I'm selling my truck for a G500/G55. So hopefully you can all see how serious I am about this.
 

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You're right but I think the angle would wear out the ball jounts faster.
 

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Rude...if I may...why would I need different steering linkage for 4" of lift up front?
If you install longer control arms, you will need to extend the length of the rack. Just cut and splice a longer section onto the tierod- between the ball joint and threaded portion.
 

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Right...I understand based on lifting other trucks...however Rude mentioned he had lifted it 8" up front without extending the rack. My question was based on his previous experiment.

I went to a local fab shop this week that specializes in custom suspension for Monster Trucks and show trucks...I am being told by just about everyone this is impossible. So...next choice I guess would be body lift?
 

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Actually I have been it the works on doing some major mods and would like to have a monster ML as well. I have been in comunication with a local shop that does nothing but Mercedes. We have come to the conclusion that to properly raise a ML you would have to use straight axles like on a Jeep. A multi link type of suspension would have to be made and it would work because the 163 ML's have a real frame. Also the transfer case is a Borg Warner, and a real 4x4 transfer case could be used.

The up side to all this is you would have a real 4 wheel drive vehicle capable of going almost anywhere.

The down side is the characteristics of driving the vehicle would be totally different, you would no longer have traction control and other things.

So anything is possible but how far do you want to go and how much do you want to spend.

For the daily driver you can get 2" of lift with no problem then add 285-75-16 tires and you get almost 2 more inches...
 

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Then it's settled! Thanks again Rude for all of your help with this. I seriously would have been running around in circles for months.
 
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