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Good morning, I have a 1990 300TE 4matic imported from Japan with 159K km. It runs well and has a trip computer on dash in German and computer switches are on centre console. There is salvaged titled 1990 300E 4matic donar car with 250K km in Canadian spec with trailer hitch available not far from me available for $400. Would the parts in 300E compatible/interchangable with 300TE (both 4matic) ? I do not need any parts right now but for future use. Many thanks.

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Both are gray market cars to us folks in the US. On the surface, I would assume the running gear/hydraulic system related to the cars would be the same. However, some bits and doodads between Japanese models and Canada spec models may be different. Hopefully, someone with experience in both will chime in.

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I think the only concern I'd have is whether both cars had the same ratio differentials. That trip computer is quite rare here in NA
 

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Bentley lists my ratio as 3.07 but the US models got 3.27. So yeah, there could conceivably be differences there.

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I have a TE ( http://s284.photobucket.com/albums/ll4/pwogaman/1990 Mercedes 300TE/ ) and completely gutted an E for parts ( http://s284.photobucket.com/albums/ll4/pwogaman/1991 Mercedes 300E 4MATIC/ ) (both 4matic). I have already used many parts from the E on the TE, so it is on that basis that I have the following input.

The TE should have a 3.29 ratio, and the E a 3.07. The hitch from a E should fit in a TE, but not the other way around. The E hitch will likely provide a minimal amount of lesser support as the left side rail bracket is shorter. The TE hitch will not work on the E because of the spare tire storage area. The E hitch bends lower to go below that.

Pretty much everything else should be transferable.

The trip computer might be calibrated to the different ratio, but is still one hell of a find.

Here is a link to a very detailed blog for a Japanese 300TE 4matic: S124”õ–Y˜^

It has over 140 DIY projects with very good pictures. Once you figure out how to navigate through the site it is very informative.
 

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On EPC, look up the pinion gears for each VIN. That will show the ratio. Both final drive ratios must be the same on a 4-matic.

If there is a difference, then you can also swap the screw gear which drives the speedo cable. It is matched to the differential ratio for each vehicle.

Of course, some parts of the steering systems will be different. Review other systems on EPC to determine the differences for both VINs.
 

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I don't see how swapping the speedo gear would resolve a differential ratio conflict as the speedo cable taps from the final drive of the transmission and both the front and rear differentials are downstream from that, separating at the transfer case. If your goal is to have an accurate speedometer reading, then a different speedo gear would work for that, but then again, the front and read would have to be the same ratio.

To the best of my recollection the steering boxes and the rest of the steering system are the same for the TE and the E.
 

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The TE should have a 3.29 ratio, and the E a 3.07.
124.290:
3.29 - with automatic gearbox
3.46 - up to 08/1989 with manual
3.67 - from 09/1989 with manual

124.230:
3.07 - with automatic and with manual from 07/1990
3.29 - up to 08/1989 with manual
3.67 - form 09/1989 up to 06/1990 with manual


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Thank you Gentlemen, Outstanding support here in this forum, I think I will pull the trigger tomorrow and get the car. If anything one can never have enough of relays, electric components, trims, set of MB 8 holes wheels for winter tires, and just may be TC, SLS, 4matic brain, cruise control amp, A/C condensor etc. for future (fingers crossed). Again, thank you to all.

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BTW, as rare as trip computer option is in NA spec wagon as pointed out by the senior member, I sometimes wish I do not have it in my wagon. I find it is almost next to impossible finding replacement trim piece for centre console where the computer switches are. Would love having blur walnut trim pieces all around. Don't shoot me, Audi did a great job on interior trimmings IMHO.

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I meant to write 3.29 ratio-sorry for the typo.:thumbsup: Fantastic price for the one car.

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Thank you Gentlemen, Outstanding support here in this forum, I think I will pull the trigger tomorrow and get the car. If anything one can never have enough of relays, electric components, trims, set of MB 8 holes wheels for winter tires, and just may be TC, SLS, 4matic brain, cruise control amp, A/C condensor etc. for future (fingers crossed). Again, thank you to all.

Finton
Good call. $400 is a no-brainer (even if it is Canadian money).

A couple of other 4matic unique things are: the steering wheel angle sensor; the brake light switch; the ABS module; all of the front suspension and steering controls (e.g. tie rods); instrument cluster; engine; transmission; drive shafts; and of course the badge on the back.

Let me know if you're bothered enough by that trip computer to want to part with it.
 
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