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So, I just won this auction: 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300-Series 2 door coupe | eBay

1984 300cd
145k miles
$12,500

From what I have heard from the seller, it is a no rust 300cd, which was my main worry. The only thing that he said regarding flaws was the intermittent radio. I am as inexperienced (yet excited) as it comes with the benz 300 models. I have done a lot of research in the past few months, trying to gather as much information as I can. If any of you guys who have experience with buying a 300 model (be it a cd,d,td), would you mind taking a look at the page I listed above, and tell me if you see any obvious red flags that I am just blindly missing? I did not see the vehicle myself, as I am in AL and couldn't travel to LA before the auction ended. Did I get a good deal? I would have liked to have it inspected before purchasing, so no need to tell me things like that. Anyways, I am excited, and look forward to being on this forum from here on out.


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12.5k!

You haven't personally seen the car....

The photos are smaller then my phone screen and I can't zoom in to see any details...

Not one photo of the under carriage, front suspension or even tire tried...

NUTS!!!

I "think" I see cracks in the windscreen gaskets, brake fluid is dark, door striker are bad and to much amor all to shine up the engine...

No way!!

Though now adays, people are paying insane amounts for cars..
 

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Looks like a well cared for W123, but that price is ridiculous in my opinion. And if you are paying that much for one of these W123's it better have ALL of the service records and better have absolutely no rust. I bet the owner believes there isn't any rust, but you never know with these cars. Rust is easily hidden on this chassis and unless you know what you are doing, you will think it is rust free. Too much of a gamble buying a car online, especially at that absurd price. If you hold out you can pick one of these up in similar condition for half the cost. This is the kind of thing you post about before buying, not after you have won the bid. Sorry for sounding so negative.
 

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The price is absolutely absurd for not inspecting the car in person first or paying a third party to inspect it.
The pictures are too small and the seller dumped a bucket of tire shine in the engine bay.
Good looking car otherwise. I'd put it around $8-10k.


And Mercedes made 15,509 300CD.
 

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The car doesn’t look too bad from the pictures, it looks like they got a dash cover on it, that almost certainly indicates there’s a cracks the dash. The good news it does look a like it has leather interior, which is a bit of a rare option for those cars, know my past experience of buying these all Benz, maintenance history is a big plus and hopefully someone has keep keep up on all the maintenance. If you can do the work yourself one of these cars can be a lot of fun and rewarding, however if you have to go to a garage to do it for you, it can get very expensive very quick.
 

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It looks very nice. Cosmetically, the only thing that lets this thing down is the coolant reservoir. It looks dark and faded, but apart from that, it looks fantastic. Everything looks complete and nice.
As for the price, I normally see coupes going for around that money in this condition, at least in Hemmings and ebay. Probably you can get them cheaper from other sources, but usually have higher millage. Also, who cares how much you paid for it, it’s your money.

Not wanting to create controversy, I think that paying a considerable amount of money for a car like this is not exactly bad. When you paid a good chunk of hard earned money for something, you appreciate and care more about it. Normally when people get this sort of car for cheap, they don’t take care of it because is a cheap car and they can buy another one for peanuts all day long and kill one after the other and that is how one day they become extinct…

Anyway, what I would recommend you is right after receive the car, is to check all fluids and make sure they were replaced and are correct. You don’t want something like green coolant. Also put the car on a lift and inspect carefully all suspension components, exhaust and hangers, fluid leaks, drive shaft flex disc and carrier bearing, axle boots, and the condition of the undercoating.

If you see any cracks in the undercoating, you will have to peel it and clean any surface rust that may be growing there. Rust hides underneath it and when you realize, the car is all rusted.

If you see cracks in the rubber components of the drive shaft or axle boots, you have to replace it right away, otherwise catastrophic damage will occur.

Just, bear in mind that you bought a car that is 33 years old. Things can and will go wrong with it from time to time. You have to expect that. The good thing is that there are lots of resources to fix anything.

Good luck with it. I hope it makes you happy.
 

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Very nice. You're going to love it.

The prices for mint coupes has been going up lately. At least, it seems that way to me. As for what you paid, there was at least one other guy willing to go that high. Good luck with it.
 

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I think you did fine, don't give much credence to the naysayers. Most are jealous and can't afford a nice car like this, and are driving basically parts cars. They don't know what a nice car cost and only have the POS that they have to go by. Their car breaks down constantly, because it is basically used up, high mileage, and under maintained. They don't know how to fix, or parts cost more than what they paid for the car.
You will be fine with a great coupe and it will be a great investment that you can drive! In a few years you will wish you got another one for such a low price! Remember it was only about 7 years ago when you could pick up a long hood Porsche 911S in excellent condition for about $45k. Today the same car will cost you about $225k! These are climbing in value if in the condition like yours. They will only go up, its the POS cars that will stay the same or go down in value.
I would not sell my coupe for less than $20k or my wagon for less than $30k. as they are in excellent condition and would drive them across country with no issues or worries. Post some photos when you get it home!
 

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Thanks for the responses all. I take no offense to the negative responses, as I had similar thoughts and immediate regrets. After speaking with the seller, and the mechanic who serviced the car in the past, I feel better. There are small cracks near the left speaker, which I assumed due to the dash pad. Not ideal, wish it wasnt the case, but I appreciated the honesty. Makes me feel more confident in the zero rust underneath. The fact that it is a LA car (yes I know it's not always the case) helps my high hopes for that being true. And the next thing is finding a trustworthy benz mechanic in Birmingham, AL to work with. I'm sure there's threads to find one on the forums.

I appreciate any and all advice for when I get the car. Thanks for those who have already posted.
 

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Nice CD, once it arrives a good inspection, full fluid change and brake system flush would give you a good starting point for your time with the car.
Good luck and happy motoring with it.
 

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I bought a coupe in similar (excellent) condition, tho with 155,000 miles two years ago. Prior to that, and since then I've been watching them on Ebay. I don't think what you paid is an anomaly as I have seen many at higher levels. Now, I don't know if those cars actually SOLD for those prices as eBay prices can be wonky.

But, I think I did OK. I think you did as well. As VON said, there's a lot of old junk out there which makes prices seem high. But, consider what it would take to find a rust free car in average shape and to then bring it up to this standard. A lot.

I am pretty certain that my car has been painted but I am not positive. The paint is in phenomenal condition for a 32 year old car so that makes me skeptical. And if it was painted, it was nearly disassembled and taken down to bare metal. There is zero evidence (ie overspray on window gaskets and trim, ridges in door jambs, etc) that I can see except for one tiny tiny dot on a fender. That dot would have been the result of an oily contaminant in the gun as the car was being sprayed. I doubt it left the factory like that.

My point is, that kind of quality paint-job would cost thousands of dollars. Put that on a decent 5K coupe and you're quickly into the kind of money you paid for your car.

My buddy raised his eyebrows when I told him what I paid (8K) for mine. But, every time I look at it, and every time I drive it I know that its worth that to me. I believe that I could sell it for a profit, or at least break even. I have no plans to sell this car. I absolutely love it.

Keep watching eBay and Bring a Trailer etc. I think you'll see your price rationalized over the next year or two.

Enjoy your new coupe.
 

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I had a number of folks weigh in on my recent purchase mainly saying it was not a great idea because it had some rust on a soon to be replaced rear quarter panel, and sure there is some additional rust scattered about, but it was worth it to me - if you plan on driving it into a deep grave and not reselling it, makes no difference does it?


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I was surprised at the price but looking at the pics it seems like a good value. Maybe a crack in the dash, but a nicely detailed car. Hard to believe that the kind of effort required to have that level of detail would not include mechanical maintenance. Good luck with it!
 

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Where to begin...

Prices for the coupes are all over the board and I'm familiar with your seller. About 7 years ago I found a one owner 1985 Lapis Blue/Palomino leather coupe with service records located in Orange County, CA with 90,XXX miles for $5,500. I missed the car by one hour. Your seller had it on Ebay within two months and IIRC it sold for $15,XXX. Here's one I recently missed by 24 hours: 300CD Archives | German Cars For Sale Blog. I currently own two CDs a 1982 & 1985 but always looking for that 110% perfect one. High caliber original cars such as the OP seemingly purchased simply do not exist in our state or area for that matter.

So, for those of you in CA, FL and NY kudos to you for your ability to pick these babies up at Estate Sales for $3,000-$5,000. For the rest of us that have to buy from the flippers or higher priced advertised examples it's just the luck of the draw. Von and OldMako are spot on. There are so few really really good 123s running around out there in general these days. And sure you can find one for $5,000 but at the end of the day you will have $8,000-$10,000 in it. Been there done that!

One side of my family uses Birmingham Benz for service work. Great mechanic and knows these old Benzes. The other side of the family stayed with Crown for service after purchase. There are probably other good mechanics out there today as well. Are you planning to use a mechanic because of perceived lack of mechanical ability or lack of time?
Hopefully, you are too busy doing many other activites in your city/area: eating at one of Frank Stitt's many fine establishments, partaking at Dram's in their fine Bourbon selection, crab cakes at Fox Valley, jogging on the Mountain Brook/Lakeshore walking trail to take in all of the female eye candy home from UA, relaxing at your Lake Martin or Alys Beach home!

Make sure to call the mechanic back and offer to pay him to turn over the service records if they aren't with the car. Chances are he will send them at no charge. Been there done that as well...
 

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Innovation560, great read. No, I am not enjoying most of those things currently. Though I will splurge on good food every so often, I haven't the time, money, or lakehouse. I simply want a reliable car, and currently am going back and forth with the seller. He says he had work done on new boots, bushings, and a few other things, but no receipts because he paid cash. First sketchy thing. Second was that the dash has cracks in it, which he was honest about when I asked him-just not forthright in his advertising. How big of a deal would that be to yall? The third is rust concern. I will happily pay the 12.5k if the zero rust is guaranteed. But so far he has sent me 3 pictures. I attached them, and tell me if you think those don't look like they've been treated from rust. If Im wrong, then great. But I'm not just skeptical, and even told him that between those 3 concerns, he needs to show me more pictures before I give him the rest of the 12.5k and have it shipped.
 

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Oh, and I intend to read and learn to work on the car myself. The benz tech will for immediate inspection, until I can learn adequately myself.
 

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It's hard to tell if the car was a good deal or not. It cannot be judged by any of us. After all we haven't seen it either. If you simply wanted a reliable car, you should have bought a Camry. You are going to be doing maintenance a lot more than you think. Also, you may get frustrated with the quirkiness of the Benz, like vacuum locks that sometimes don't work, low (and I mean LOW) acceleration, lack of availability of genuine MB parts, etc. If you decide to pay the seller the remainder and take it home, embrace it. It's yours now.
 

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Innovation560, great read. No, I am not enjoying most of those things currently. Though I will splurge on good food every so often, I haven't the time, money, or lakehouse. I simply want a reliable car, and currently am going back and forth with the seller. He says he had work done on new boots, bushings, and a few other things, but no receipts because he paid cash. First sketchy thing. Second was that the dash has cracks in it, which he was honest about when I asked him-just not forthright in his advertising. How big of a deal would that be to yall? The third is rust concern. I will happily pay the 12.5k if the zero rust is guaranteed. But so far he has sent me 3 pictures. I attached them, and tell me if you think those don't look like they've been treated from rust. If Im wrong, then great. But I'm not just skeptical, and even told him that between those 3 concerns, he needs to show me more pictures before I give him the rest of the 12.5k and have it shipped.
The jack points certainly look suspect to me.

However, before condemning 100%, I would have to inspect in person.
 

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One more item that many will probably disagree with me on and that is axles should have been replaced.

IMO when the axle boots are shot, time to replace axles especially if this is going to be a DD or long term hold. OEM axles are anywhere from $337 to $350/ea and that's if you can find them. Rebuilt axles are $125/ea depending on the supplier and then again I think all the "rebuilders" do is slap on new boots and paint.
 
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