[48hp]

came across this:

1983 AMG Benz 500 SL Convertible NONE NICER!

an old listing:

1983 Mercedes-Benz 500SL AMG $15,000 Possible trade | Custom Euro Classifieds | Euro Sales

 

[POS]

Both of those are old - Car A is probably not an AMG, Car B certainly might be, but I'm always suspicous.

 

[bandit96]

It's the same car...

 

[bandit96]

And I don't think it's an AMG - If I recall, the AMG retained the factory badge on the driver side and the AMG badge was mounted STRAIGHT (not crooked, like this one) on the PASSENGER side.

 

[volvo164]

They could have put the badge back wrong / differently when repainted. What else should you look for on an AMG car? I work in Delaware, might check this one out next week when I'm back from vacation. I'm not sure if I like everything being body color, instead of chrome.

 

[POS]

Geez, why would they put those rims on it? I confused the second picture with the red AMG that's been on Autotrader forever. THAT'S the one that I think has the possibility of being real. The red one in the pics above has a stock exhaust - I'd guess a body kit, suspension pieces, and a respray, but no engine mods.

 

[ussun]

well the top one has that little label on the valve cover, that I've seen on other amg's
plus the amg snorkel.

 

[rowdie]

Looks like the same engine in both ads. Peeling label edge snorkel and all.

 

[Red_560SL_87]

I think they ruined the car. Doesn't look right to me.

 

[bandit96]

At 15k I would want a documented, all stock, pristine example of an AMG. Not some pimped out looking kit car. I think this guy's going to have problems unloading THAT one!

 

[volvo164]

Can someone explain what are the benefits of the AMG version of these cars? What are the modifications to the engine, and how much more power is produced?

 

[bandit96]

Can someone explain what are the benefits of the AMG version of these cars? What are the modifications to the engine, and how much more power is produced?

It depends. AMG was primarily a custom shop. You ordered the car the way you wanted it. It could be bone stock with a body kit and rims. Or it could be totally modified suspension, drivetrain, bodykit, rims, tires, interior, etc...
I saw an AMG brochure on another forum yesterday, may have been the 126. I am going to go look right now.:thumbsup:

 

[bandit96]

Yep, it was the W126 forum, thread by "mclare" titled "AMG catalog" - I spent quite a while reading through it yesterday - interesting read and very informative.

 

[white500se]

Can someone explain what are the benefits of the AMG version of these cars? What are the modifications to the engine, and how much more power is produced?

A stock Euro 500 produced 245hp, a stage one engine upgrade on an AMG (the most common) produced around 280. Obviously the more the engine was modded the greater the gains. The upgradeds suspension and aero kit also improved the handling of the car. Then, of course, there was the bragging rights of owning an AMG. Not sure how much that applies any more as it seems only those of us here really appreciate the old ones now.

 

[white500se]

Two things. Goes without saying the current wheels are hideous. Unless you have a spare set of something nice that'll add another $1k to the cost. Second, the paint was half assed. If you're going to black out the stars and badge, black out all the chrome. Looks really good on a red car (I've got a pic of a W126 widebody with that look). Or at least they should've painted the basketweaves black. The most everything red except a bit here and there just doesn't work for me.

 

[volvo164]

I'm not really interested in getting it, but I'm hoping to test drive it next week. I prefer the original chromed look much better - although I like the AMG look in all black, like POS's car. The rims are indeed hideous, they should have kept the BBS rims on it. 280 horses sound mighty tempting. It should go like a bat out of hell. Does anyone know whether or not the 5 speed manual tranny from a 280SL bolts up to the 5 liter engine?

 

[POS]

I don't think that car has any engine mods, so it should go like a normal 500SL. MB didn't make a manual tranny that'd bolt up to the M117; the manual tranny in my car is a Getrag 265 that was custom fit to the engine by AMG.

The best perks to the real AMG are (1) more power, (2) a manual tranny (if you're lucky!), and (3) the music the AMG exhaust makes - it's intoxicating, you're constantly harder on the throttle than you should be, but it just sounds so wonderful. Ever drive a Ferrari? Same type of music.

 

[white500se]

Two things. Goes without saying the current wheels are hideous. Unless you have a spare set of something nice that'll add another $1k to the cost. Second, the paint was half assed. If you're going to black out the stars and badge, black out all the chrome. Looks really good on a red car (I've got a pic of a W126 widebody with that look). Or at least they should've painted the basketweaves black. The most everything red except a bit here and there just doesn't work for me.

Looking closer I was too hard on the paint job. Blacking out all the chrome works on a hardtop but on an SL if you took the top off it'd look silly to have just black trim around the windshield. I'd still put black wheel on it but that's just me.

 

[MERCMASTER]

Geez, why would they put those rims on it? I confused the second picture with the red AMG that's been on Autotrader forever. THAT'S the one that I think has the possibility of being real. The red one in the pics above has a stock exhaust - I'd guess a body kit, suspension pieces, and a respray, but no engine mods.

car #1 has been in accident look closely at the front bumper lines there is a

slight differance in the Gaps. Right side is wider Car # 2 is looks much

better but both are repaints

 

[MERCMASTER]

I don't think that car has any engine mods, so it should go like a normal 500SL. MB didn't make a manual tranny that'd bolt up to the M117; the manual tranny in my car is a Getrag 265 that was custom fit to the engine by AMG.

The best perks to the real AMG are (1) more power, (2) a manual tranny (if you're lucky!), and (3) the music the AMG exhaust makes - it's intoxicating, you're constantly harder on the throttle than you should be, but it just sounds so wonderful. Ever drive a Ferrari? Same type of music.

yes, i hear that MUSIC everytime i drive my 500SL AMG it sure does turn

alot of heads.

I think someone will eventually get whiplash, Brian im sure you know what i

am talking about