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Hello. I have a strange question. My neighbor saw my 82 300d and commented that he had one in his garage that was a non diesel. I checked it out briefly but saw no numbers or letters on the rear of the vehicle. He purchased it new in Germany in 1982. He thought it was a 190. I couldn't get close to the engine due to the clutter, so no idea what the engine looks like. Body is in good shape. Interior looks so so. He told me I can have it for $300. I don't think I can pass it up, but know nothing about the "e" engines.

He said it drove great until he got a new car in 1999 and then parked it. It has 123,000 miles.

Any thoughts? Thanks!

Jeff
 

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Probably a 230E or 280E. The 230E has a M102 engine and the 280E has the M110 engine. The 190E is a W201.

Why is the price so low? Surely there's got to be something wrong with it. If you're thinking about buying it you should take it to a reputable MB mechanic who knows W123's and have it inspected. If you can, take some pictures of it.
 

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Thanks for the info. How are the 102 and 110 engines? I know the 240 and 300 diesel engines are famous for their quality, but know nothing about the gasoline engines from this era.

No idea why he would sell it for $300. Probably wants more room in the garage to store crap.

I do 90% of the maintenance on my 300d, but have a great mechanic I can get to check it out. I'll probably buy it regardless though.

Thanks again.
 

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I'm a diesel person so naturally I don't know much about the 102 or 110 engines. The guys with the gassers will have to fill you in on that.
 

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My grandfather has a w116 with a m110 euro. And that engine pulls! I love it dearly.
 

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The 190 came out in min 83, so it has to be a w123 or a w126.

The w123 came with 3 gas engines:

the m102 2 liter with carb - 4 cilinder, black valve cover
the M102 2.3E liter with fuel injection - 4 cilinder black valve cover
the M110 2.8E with fuel injection - 6 cilinder, metal valve cover.

Both the m102 and the 110 are solid engines which will do a lot of miles but be sure to check the timing chain and tensioner on the m102 and the M110 can have worn camshafts.

If the car hasn't been used for a long time, it will be a bitch to get them running again; especially the fuel injected ones, because they will be clogged up due to gas residu. Also the 230E relies strongly on vacuum lines for the injection. If they leak.......

A few photo's would be nice though :)
 

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whoopsie! True!

250's aren't really comon in the netherlands, so I forgot...
 

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W123 gassers:

200 sedan = M115.938 w/ Stromberg carb ('75-'80 models)
200 sedan, 200T wagon = M102.920 w/ Stromberg carb ('79-'85 models)

230 sedan, 230C coupe, 230T wagon = M115.954 w/ Stromberg carb
230E sedan, 230CE coupe, 230TE wagon = M102.980 w/ Bosch K-Jetronic

250 sedan, 250 lang limo, 250T wagon = M123.920 w/ Solex carb

280 sedan, 280C coupe = M110.923 w/ Solex carb
280E sedan, 280CE coupe, 280TE wagon = M110.984 w/ Bosch K-Jetronic
 

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You guys forgot the v8s.... Or were the AMG aftermarket engine installs?
 

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I may forget an engine or so, but mercedes never put v8's in the w123.
 

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if it's an 82 euro M110 it should be a 1st year 110.988 car [185HP]. if it's been maintained, it's a lovely engine. the 230 is a nice engine too, but you won't win any races with it.
 

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....If the car hasn't been used for a long time, it will be a bitch to get them running again; especially the fuel injected ones, because they will be clogged up due to gas residu. Also the 230E relies strongly on vacuum lines for the injection. If they leak.......
Bah, it'll start right up. My 450SL sat since 95 and fired on the first crank last summer, no exaggeration.

You should change the oil before you start an old engine that's sat though, I think that's the main thing. It can't hurt to disable the ignition system and crank until the oil pressure gauge is showing good pressure, then try to start it.

If you want to be really safe, try cranking the engine by hand first.
 

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ive let my m110 sit for 90 days at a time, always fires first crank. worst you'd see is some oil burn off from old valve seals, but the more you drive it the less that'll happen. good luck.
 

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Any way you look at it, it's gotta be worth three Franklins, no sweat.
 
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