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Hi guys. I have a 2003 ML500 and recently got in a minor accident where I rear ended someone. My bullbar in the front seems to have bent back to the point where the middle on the top bar is so close to a car you couldn't fit a thick leather belt in it.

However, one of those heavy duty yellow straps used to die down boats and stuff will fit. My plan is to loop this stuff inside the bullbar, and tie it onto a strong tree. I will then back my car up slowly, then the bullbar will just bend back out. I think its just bent in like 2-3 inches.

http://www.discountramps.com/images/heavy-duty-straps-1.jpg

The problem is that I don't want to rip the front end of my car out. Does anyone know whether these things are attached to the frame or what?

Please help me, I will post pictures of my situation tomorrow
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We use these type of straps to hold a car still on the back of a flatbed truck, so yes they are plenty strong enough for what you intend.
 

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We use these type of straps to hold a car still on the back of a flatbed truck, so yes they are plenty strong enough for what you intend.
Sorry I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or something. I know the strap will hold up, but my concern is will my car handle it. Will something break when I am attempting this? Where is the bullhorn attached to, and if I pull too hard on the bullbar will my front end come ripping off?
 

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Sorry I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or something. I know the strap will hold up, but my concern is will my car handle it. Will something break when I am attempting this? Where is the bullhorn attached to, and if I pull too hard on the bullbar will my front end come ripping off?
No I was being serious, but you had best check the Bull bar mountings for signs of rust or damage before doing this. The bar is held by substantial bolts and plates to the main chassis.
 

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No I was being serious, but you had best check the Bull bar mountings for signs of rust or damage before doing this. The bar is held by substantial bolts and plates to the main chassis.
I highly doubt that there is any rust, but if there is and i attempt this, will it just snap off? I'm not so much worried about the bar anymore just my chassis.
 

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Like I said you must inspect the chassis for rust and signs of stress first of all, after all the car has just had an accident. We use a stretching bed for this sort of thing and I have not seen a chassis break yet.
 

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Like I said you must inspect the chassis for rust and signs of stress first of all, after all the car has just had an accident. We use a stretching bed for this sort of thing and I have not seen a chassis break yet.
Ok. The car was actually in an accident 2-3 months ago and I drive it with no problems. Only thing is though when i turn theres sometimes a squeak on my front end..

What is a stretching bed and how would it work?
 

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A stretching bed is a very large platform used in body shops. We mount the car on it and lock the bed to the car chassis. Then we braise on stretching plates to the damaged chassis and using chains and hydraulics pull the chassis straight, taking measurements every few mins.

After a front accident like this, you should have the steering and suspension checked for damage/alignment.
 

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A stretching bed is a very large platform used in body shops. We mount the car on it and lock the bed to the car chassis. Then we braise on stretching plates to the damaged chassis and using chains and hydraulics pull the chassis straight, taking measurements every few mins.

After a front accident like this, you should have the steering and suspension checked for damage/alignment.
It would be fine if I didn't use a stretching bed and just tied it to a tree right? Id just be backing up with no gas..

Should I have it done at the dealer or have a regular shop do it (the check)?
 

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You should, if you are not a keen DIY person, have it checked by a local shop at least, does not need to be a dealer.
 

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It seems to me that logic is appropriate. Your vehicle ended another solid object. The outcome was the bull bar bent backwards 2-3 inches. To bend backwards 2-3 inches something had to give - flex - so that it bends.

If you find the source of the bend you are in a better position to evaluate a low-cost remedy.

If the bar itself has bent, then pull against a tree [with care] should pull much of the bend back out. It wouldn't be perfect but neither are love, life, and lollies.

If the bar is in perfect condition then something else had to give way. That is probably when you need to visit a specialist and maybe have use of the bed as described above.
 

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It seems to me that logic is appropriate. Your vehicle ended another solid object. The outcome was the bull bar bent backwards 2-3 inches. To bend backwards 2-3 inches something had to give - flex - so that it bends.

If you find the source of the bend you are in a better position to evaluate a low-cost remedy.

If the bar itself has bent, then pull against a tree [with care] should pull much of the bend back out. It wouldn't be perfect but neither are love, life, and lollies.

If the bar is in perfect condition then something else had to give way. That is probably when you need to visit a specialist and maybe have use of the bed as described above.
Hi thanks for the input um the bar is pretty much perfect i think its a little slanted but you cant really tell.

What do you mean the source of the bend, and "something else had give way"
 

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Seems like the bull bar, which is a hollow tube, is the weakest thing up there. So when you pull very slowly it should be the thing bending. I may have to try this. I bought my ml with a slightly caved in bull bar.
 

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There's nothing inherently dangerous about pulling your bar back give its mounting bolts and plates are sound. There IS something to look at before you tie up to your tree:

Take a careful look at the bull bar to determine where it was bent. If the bend was down low, try to attach your pull line as close as possible to that point. If you were to pull from the top of the bar, there's every chance that the bottom would remain bent and you'd pull a new bend in the opposite direction. The top will be pulled back 2", but the bottom will still be bent. You would have two compensating bends.
 

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CHECK the mounting point, there were generally two types of aftermarket bars available.

1 - Has 4 mounting points, 2 of which were fitted through holes drilled in the upper face of the bumper and the other two go under the bumper through two holes already in the bumper - If this is yours the chances are the bumper mount/support plate is bent and needs replacing first.

2 - Has 2 mounting points which are through the lower section of the bumper and held on to the chassis by 4 bolts - This type could just need the bolts loosening and re-aligning as the plates tend to have oversized holes to allow for manufacturing tolerances/errors.

Best to get the front end high enough to get a good look under with a bright light and if you can take some photos we would all love to see the way its been bent.

If you do have type 2 it may be worth replacing the bolts when adjusting anyway
 

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Hey guys I got the pictures just now. Its dark but you can still see whats wrong. Just bent a little close, and the whole bar is a little crooked too but i can live with that, just needa get it pulled out. The bar is on very strong still so I don't think the mounts or anything is loose. Please let me know asap, I am hoping to solve this problem tomorrow so I can get my license plate back on (darn CA..)
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Did this work for you? What did you end up doing? I am in the same boat and was also concerned about ripping my front end off. The bar is pressed onto the bumper as is yours so it would be exactly the same.
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Have you thought about replacing the bullbar? Those are strong and you could possibly do what you are intending - but you could also screw up the frame where it's mounted.
 

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Bullbars that I see at dealers are like $700 and not worth it to me. What i did was positioned like the type of nylon cables that you use to tie down boats around a tree ad my bull bar. I reversed and it worked perfectly. These bars are strong and I had to put alot of power to get it bent back to where it was.
 
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