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Brakes on a AMG-Sport package S500 2005

Do I have regular brakes on my 2005 S500 or AMG brakes?

last night I ordered new pads for front and rear and new front rotors, but this morning i woke up and remembered that my car has AMG-Sport package that cost the original owner $5310. I ordered brakes for a regular S500 but is mine special

What did $5310 buy you on a new S500 in 2005? is it just an appearance package with fancy bumpers and wheels or did it include better brakes?

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Regular brakes not amg
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Great, it looks like i ordered the correct items.

Did $5310 only buy wheels and bumpers or are there additional items that i should be aware of?
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My 2002 W220 S500 I replaced brakes but accidentally put one pad in backwards, facing the opposite way from the disc. Obviously, this doesn't stop well and makes a terrible noise. I called my friend who is an engineer and designs airplane parts, and he took a look and said, Besides installed incorrectly you also have wrong parts. Dunno how he knew. SO, I called a MBZ dealer and asked for brake parts specific to my car, they asked me for the VIN number. Gave me prices for discs and pads totaling something crazy like $1000. Front discs, rear discs, front and rear pads.
I asked for the PART NUMBERS, and they were indeed different from what I had previously bought. They were AMG issue. My car has a lot of special stuff like "AMG package" and the heated cooled massage seats, side window shades, etc, it is almost a maybach. Anyhow, got the right brake parts from online still Genuine MBZ parts and the correct part numbers, for a lot less than that dealer wanted, like about HALF... and the pads are different composition and somewhat larger as well. My advice is call a dealer and get prices and part numbers specific to your car's VIN, and if the price is high look online for reputable sellers with Genuine MBZ parts and make sure all the part numbers are correct, I think you will have AMG brakes. Dealer will tell you. Just because RockAuto or Amazon site says "compatible with your car" doesn't mean it is the correct part. My S500 stops exceedingly well. Now.
Obviously, if I had simply taken the car to the dealership for brakes, they would have charged me about $1500-$2000 which is insane; may be okay if money is no object... I spent about $500 which is still a lot of money but did the work myself, and my friend's help, being careful to put the pads facing the right way LoL. We threw the "wrong" new brake parts in the garbage. Lesson learned. Now I will never ever do a Benzo brake job without first getting from a dealer, the part numbers for the right brake parts.

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Both the discs and the pads were different so definitely call a dealership and they can look up the part numbers for you and discuss what those brakes are. Know for sure before starting the brake job!

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I just called my local dealer (thanks for the info tonylinc) and gave them my vin and they said i have the regular S500 brakes and not the AMG brakes. it appears $5310 was just for bumpers and wheels.

I will compare the new parts to the old before installing.
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That's crazy. I wonder how I got the brakes I have got, I don't have my original window sticker, but I do know the original price of my W220 (in late 2001) was $92,000. The pads that are correct for my car have a different composition and were thicker than the wrong ones I had purchased, and the discs were slightly different as well. If I recall they were thicker. Whatever works!! I would like to have an original window sticker, or even a copy.

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update.

The front pads, rotors and wear indicators all fit without any problems, but the rear pads i received from Rock auto didn't fit. I suspect that the rock auto website lists the wrong rear pads for a 2005 S500. I watched a couple of youtube videos before removing the rear pads and the youtube videos of W220 cars have a different caliper from my car, perhaps Mercedes changed the rear calipers on 2005 S500 models?

I went to my local O'Reillys and they had the correct pads. I suggest buying from a local parts supplier if you have a 2005 S500 so that you can check to see that the pads are correct before buying.

I contacted rock auto and they immediately emailed me a returns label, lets hope the credit on my credit card is as smooth as the returns process.
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Yes Mercedes did change the brakes during the w220 production , but many pad sellers list the same part as fitting all years 2000-2006 but they are different

I think the date of the difference was in late 2002-2093
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Yep, it was in that year. My 2003 S430 with AMG Sport Package has the newer brakes. The rear brake pads (and thus calipers) are the really visible difference; they're now more similar to the rears from the W211. Previously, the rear brakes used a square pad; Dad's car and the wife's car (both 2000's) use this style.

The front brakes look considerably more similar, but the disc rotors are apparently slightly larger on the pre-facelift cars. I don't know if the front pads are the same.
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