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Hi Guys,

I was dealing with my car so did not get a chance to check with the forum, and there are a lot of posts here.

First about the tire. Last time I checked the tire was exactly one year ago when I passed State inspection. The inspector told me that the tire passed but is very low and I need to replace it ASAP. Since that I was not driving my car and in total I got about 1200 miles. The alignment obviously is so bad that the tire got to this terrible shape too fast.

About repair - on the picture is what I got. I pulled it from another car and I checked that those used parts are genuine MB parts. I assume you guys will be satisfied
My concern is about broken brake line. I remember what ones I changed a brake line on a Cadillac DTS and then a year later I brought it to a dealer to replace transmission they had to redo the line as well since I put it at an easier path, unfortunately it prevented the transmission to be removed from the car!!!
Obviously, I will use my original rotor and pads, the rest of the assembly I am planning on using the used one. The control arm looks to be very tight, hopefully recently replaces since the donor car had 160K miles. Would you recommend to replace some additional parts from the assembly? I think is should be very easy so install since everything is intact.
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OP take Dave's advice and do not get hurt!!
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Oh no they were not, they took the whole weight of that front corner while that Wheel was wobbling and hanging and eventually the weakest link, (the Caliper Carrier) snapped allowing the Wheel Disc and Hub to come off and rip out the Brake Pipes !!

Why risk using a stressed, maybe distorted, maybe cracked Disc, and maybe distorted, or un bonded Pads ..................

It just beggars belief

That's it I've done my bit, I'm outta here
Touche - I had not fully thought through how it failed. I can't disagree with you on this point.
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Oh no they were not, they took the whole weight of that front corner while that Wheel was wobbling and hanging and eventually the weakest link, (the Caliper Carrier) snapped allowing the Wheel Disc and Hub to come off and rip out the Brake Pipes !!

Why risk using a stressed, maybe distorted, maybe cracked Disc, and maybe distorted, or un bonded Pads ..................

It just beggars belief

That's it I've done my bit, I'm outta here
A new disc and pads are essential and very cheap on rockauto.com and should definitely be replaced at a minimum as these are safety items , even if you donít want to refresh the ball joints and bushings .
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So sorry and bad luck but couple obvious takeaways from this for all drivers. LISTEN to your car! If it starts making strange noises and especially if you feel something change all of a sudden in the steering or stability while at speed, pull over ASAP!! The major damage may have been (or maybe not) avoidable. Also once these things are out of warranty, they can be quite expensive to own if you don't learn to work on them yourself as someone else pointed out. Granted, changing out a front CV axle on a 4matic ain't exactly easy.
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Last thing which I need for repair I got today - the brake hose. I got two versions: Raybestos and Dorman. Which would you recommend to use?
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Both are exceptional brands. Raybestos is a brake parts related brand and Dorman wears many hats but is good stuff as well.
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Thank you Triple cranks, it is especially good to know since their hoses were $5 each including delivery from Amazon
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..................lol

Dorman is crap, I've gotten more DOA and plain defective products from Dorman than URO. That should say something. Raybesto is half decent, but I wouldn't buy them.

And you're cheaping out on the one thing that helps you to stop the car?

Just buy the original parts, they last forever and aren't build to pennies.

Part number 220 428 11 35, they cost less than $40. You can find them for $30, even $25 if you can shop around.

Cheap out on the used bearings, used axle all you want, I don't care. It's your car, your money, your prerogative. But don't ever cheap out on the safety items.

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Deplore,

Raybesto's one does look a bit better made. They both are made in China. BTW, how often do you see a hose broken without a reason? I guess the hose is just a piece of rubber tube with two end connectors. I doubt I will kill myself using those hoses. Back in time after reading the forum I declined almost ordered complete suspension parts kit including all 4 control arms, ball joint etc from Hamburg Mechanics (what a nice name - LOL) for $900. But for the hose I don't see a reason to go OE.
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It's all in the QA and how much pressure the hose can take before bursting.

Mercedes massively overspecs the brake hoses, they are rated to take up to 200 bar, and then limit the car so the maximum it can output to each corner is maybe 100 bar, 140 if you're stomping on it with two feet and bracing against the seat.

This is to allow plenty of margin in case of decay and rust taking away some of the support, plus for longevity and extreme dependency. I've seen 40 year old MB with original brake hoses.

How much QA do you think they put into that $5 hose? Just slap on a regular hose specced for an aircooled VW beetle, put in the fitting for the MB and done? How would you know? Guess you'll find out at the scene of the next accident if that hose can withstand the pressure or not.

I've seen cheap hoses burst before...usually on cars that were previously in accidents. I've seen more than a few cars come in on a tow truck leaking brake fluid everywhere because a $5 aftermarket hose burst...almost always as a result of the body shop rebuilding the front corner. When they get authorization from insurance company using OEM parts and prices, and then once the check comes in, they start to use aftermarket parts to keep the profits high.

I've been interviewed and retained as an "expert" witness in lawsuits for this exact scenario. But what do I know? I'm just an idiot on the internet bleating useless facts.

Anyway, I've done my part. Please take care, I'm out.
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