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4-matic engine mounts---DIY??

evening gentlemen.

Mercy-Me was gracious enough to offer up the WIS for this procedure, which I'm hoping he'll post shortly. Has anyone done a DIY on this? If so, any shortcuts to the somewhat in depth factory procedure, which requires axle removal?

thanks all and mercy-me of course.
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For what it's worth, I replaced the motor mounts on my 2006 S500 4matic just a few weeks ago it's even WAY more simple than the service manual suggests.
I was able to do both sides in 2 hours and didn't need to mess with loosening the steering rack or removing axle shafts etc. Now that I know how it's done, I can probably do them again (next time) in about 1 1/2 hours..

The right side comes out from the top-
Just remove the serpentine belt, alternator mounting bolts and move the alternator out of the way so the mount will come up through the area normally taken by the alternator.

The left side comes out from underneath between the sub-frame and the engine oil pan (you need to remove the plastic cover under the engine bay). Just remove the 3 bolts that hold the cooler lines in place to the oil pan/block so you can move the lines out of the way (they have rubber hose sections so you don't bend any hard lines doing this) and you can snake the mount in an out from that opening.

For me, I removed the white rubber covers off the mounts just to make them easier to handle while getting them into position and then slipped them back on once I got the mounts into position (before bolting them down).

If you're careful, you don't even need to disconnect the battery (I didn't) and you will obviously need a floor jack to support and lift the engine slightly to remove/replace the mounts.

Probably one of the easiest jobs I've done on this car.
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Ollie, it looks like we have the answer we were looking for from ezobens. Thank you brother ezobens!

I will go ahead and post the WIS procedure documents anyway just so that you have them as promised.

Bob

(The dealer would have charged you the book rate which would have included the R&I of the entire front axle system.)
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File Type: pdf install bottom engine compartment paneling.pdf (134.2 KB, 368 views)
File Type: pdf install engine mount Right Side.pdf (60.0 KB, 421 views)
File Type: pdf install front axle shafts.pdf (151.2 KB, 1488 views)
File Type: pdf install front axle transmission.pdf (103.9 KB, 595 views)
File Type: pdf install left engine support.pdf (45.0 KB, 312 views)
File Type: pdf install rear engine mount.pdf (52.0 KB, 310 views)
File Type: pdf install right engine support.pdf (50.3 KB, 252 views)
File Type: pdf Raise engine.pdf (22.4 KB, 289 views)
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For what it's worth, I replaced the motor mounts on my 2006 S500 4matic just a few weeks ago it's even WAY more simple than the service manual suggests.
I was able to do both sides in 2 hours and didn't need to mess with loosening the steering rack or removing axle shafts etc. Now that I know how it's done, I can probably do them again (next time) in about 1 1/2 hours..

The right side comes out from the top-
Just remove the serpentine belt, alternator mounting bolts and move the alternator out of the way so the mount will come up through the area normally taken by the alternator.

The left side comes out from underneath between the sub-frame and the engine oil pan (you need to remove the plastic cover under the engine bay). Just remove the 3 bolts that hold the cooler lines in place to the oil pan/block so you can move the lines out of the way (they have rubber hose sections so you don't bend any hard lines doing this) and you can snake the mount in an out from that opening.

For me, I removed the white rubber covers off the mounts just to make them easier to handle while getting them into position and then slipped them back on once I got the mounts into position (before bolting them down).

If you're careful, you don't even need to disconnect the battery (I didn't) and you will obviously need a floor jack to support and lift the engine slightly to remove/replace the mounts.

Probably one of the easiest jobs I've done on this car.
Outstanding news. With this information and the low price of engine mounts, no reason not to change them with any vibrations.

When you say cooler, I'm assuming you are referring to the transmission oil cooler (or power steering?)

thanks a bunch.
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Ollie, it looks like we have the answer we were looking for from ezobens. Thank you brother ezobens!

I will go ahead and post the WIS procedure documents anyway just so that you have them as promised.

Bob

(The dealer would have charged you the book rate which would have included the R&I of the entire front axle system.)
Bob,
thanks again.

Good info in this thread that makes owning these cars much cheaper.
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Just as an aside, (see attachment).
Add in parts at dealer list and you are probably looking at easily a $2k+ bill to do all three mounts!
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Outstanding news. With this information and the low price of engine mounts, no reason not to change them with any vibrations.

When you say cooler, I'm assuming you are referring to the transmission oil cooler (or power steering?)

thanks a bunch.
Not entirely sure-
I wasn't able to tell if they were PS cooler lines or something else.
They are the only 2 lines that run along the left side and front of the oil pan and are secured by 3 bolts.
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Thanks, gents - added to the Encyclopedia under Engine.

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Thanks everyone for the info. I am going to do mine at some point
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Thanks for the gr8 write up! Is this procedure the same way for a S55 removal of the engine mounts?
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