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Ordered new low beams! - GE Nighthawk Xenon

So I just got this car and I swear the low beams are original because they're very, very dim...

I will replace them with GE Lighting H7 55NHX/BP2 Nighthawk Xenon, available here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GZHC2EE

According to Daniel Stern lighting and many of the users on candle power forums, these are quite literally the best H7 bulb money can buy. So, I'll give it a shot!

I can post some pictures of how they look in the car afterward.

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If your w211 wasnt equipped with factory hids, I suggest find in a set of used HID housings and swapping them in. Even if the lenses are yellowed you can replace those for $40 then code the car for HIDs.

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Variation on the above: you can do what I did and refurb your factory halogens with HID ballasts, projectors, and bulbs. Coding the car for XENON PRESENT afterwards is very easy with SDS.

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HID's sound nice but I keep seeing stories of them failing and then it's expensive when they go out, right? I figure H7's are pretty reliable and I just swap a cheap bulb when they die... ?

I have never had HID's though, so... I mean, is there any good before/after comparison I can see? Are they truly worth it?

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Actually, there is. It's one of my threads in the W220 forum, featuring the E320 CDI in one of the posts.

Here's the page that shows, as an example, halogen high-beams vs. HID high-beams. Low-beam performance is similar. Look for the post comparing the S430 vs. the S500. The S430 here has "single xenon" low-beams, and traditional high-beams. The S500 has the exact same headlight assembly, but upgraded by me to bi-xenon (low- and high-beam HID).

https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w22...l#post16712538

And here is what my E320 CDI's new headlights look like. I hadn't taken "before" pictures on this car, but the difference was *stark*, I assure you.

https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w22...factory-4.html

We also have two Honda Civics. I have converted one of them from halogen to HID. Compared to the other Civic of similar vintage, the HID-equipped Civic is so far and away brighter that they're not even in the same conversation anymore. Really.

Here's what the Civic looks like now.

https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w22...l#post17192394

As for reliability, if you get junk, yep, they're unreliable...just like with anything else. I admit that I made that mistake on the Civic in one area (the bulb-to-ballast adaptor), since replaced with a quality adaptor that is rock-solid. Amazing what just $5 more will do for quality. :-) And that's really the key; if you stick with quality stuff, e. g. Hella Gen 3 ballasts, Osram/Philips/Jahn bulbs, and either Hella or Morimoto projectors, I've found the HID's to be very reliable, indeed. I love 'em, and there's no way I'd ever go back now.

But aren't the bulbs expensive?

Not much more than a pair of those "xenon" halogen bulbs, really. Expect to pay, real-world, between $60 and $100 for a pair of good, non-Chinesium bulbs. I go into this extensively in the aforementioned thread. Remember, though, that HID bulbs will last 17 years. How do I know that? Because the project 2000 S500 was 17 years and 135,000 miles old when I bought it, and it was pretty clear due to the "blue shift" that those were the original bulbs. Yeah, baby. That's why I stick with Osram, Philips, and Jahn. You'll likely get at least 15 years out of your bulbs, perhaps more.

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Actually, there is. It's one of my threads in the W220 forum, featuring the E320 CDI in one of the posts.

Here's the page that shows, as an example, halogen high-beams vs. HID high-beams. Low-beam performance is similar. Look for the post comparing the S430 vs. the S500. The S430 here has "single xenon" low-beams, and traditional high-beams. The S500 has the exact same headlight assembly, but upgraded by me to bi-xenon (low- and high-beam HID).

https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w22...l#post16712538

And here is what my E320 CDI's new headlights look like. I hadn't taken "before" pictures on this car, but the difference was *stark*, I assure you.

https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w22...factory-4.html

We also have two Honda Civics. I have converted one of them from halogen to HID. Compared to the other Civic of similar vintage, the HID-equipped Civic is so far and away brighter that they're not even in the same conversation anymore. Really.

Here's what the Civic looks like now.

https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w22...l#post17192394

As for reliability, if you get junk, yep, they're unreliable...just like with anything else. I admit that I made that mistake on the Civic in one area (the bulb-to-ballast adaptor), since replaced with a quality adaptor that is rock-solid. Amazing what just $5 more will do for quality. :-) And that's really the key; if you stick with quality stuff, e. g. Hella Gen 3 ballasts, Osram/Philips/Jahn bulbs, and either Hella or Morimoto projectors, I've found the HID's to be very reliable, indeed. I love 'em, and there's no way I'd ever go back now.

But aren't the bulbs expensive?

Not much more than a pair of those "xenon" halogen bulbs, really. Expect to pay, real-world, between $60 and $100 for a pair of good, non-Chinesium bulbs. I go into this extensively in the aforementioned thread. Remember, though, that HID bulbs will last 17 years. How do I know that? Because the project 2000 S500 was 17 years and 135,000 miles old when I bought it, and it was pretty clear due to the "blue shift" that those were the original bulbs. Yeah, baby. That's why I stick with Osram, Philips, and Jahn. You'll likely get at least 15 years out of your bulbs, perhaps more.
Good information. I will definitely consider this later on. For now hopefully these new bulbs hold up just fine for a while and will at least give me some time to figure out what works best for HID's if I opt for that route.

Thanks!

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