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Fuse 59 is starter relay.

I wonder what happened. Bad starter or bad relay?
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Do you know which one is the relay and how to test it
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Starter relay is L in diagram, part # 002542119. When inspecting/replacing relay, also check terminals they may need cleaning. If this does clear problem, check starter solenoid next. Definitive diagnose, pull codes using MB DAS.
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Starter relay is L in diagram, part # 002542119. When inspecting/replacing relay, also check terminals they may need cleaning. If this does clear problem, check starter solenoid next. Definitive diagnose, pull codes using MB DAS.
Thanks you very much for your help
now i figured out the problem will be one of these:
Starter
Solenoid
Relay

(The key , ignition system is working fine)
Am i right?
if im right, actually i didn't need to mess up the car because i didnt know how to get the starter and soleniod out
if i went to the dealer with this information and he will doube check these how much they will take
and if they gonna change the starter or solenoid ?? does anyone know how much it will cost labor only because im gonna buy these stuff from ebay , and are they offer towing in this case for free,
is there is any place i can do this out dealer
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Here is a brand new Bosch with solenoid for $260 (MB uses the Bosch unit but charges an insane amount of money.)
The relay is under $20.

Labor is no more than 1.5 hours if the starter needs replacing.
http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-SR0463N-New-Starter/dp/B001UC72AS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440574740&sr=8-1&keywords=Bosch+SR0463N
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Thanks you very much for your help
now i figured out the problem will be one of these:
Starter
Solenoid
Relay

(The key , ignition system is working fine)
Am i right?
if im right, actually i didn't need to mess up the car because i didnt know how to get the starter and soleniod out
if i went to the dealer with this information and he will doube check these how much they will take
and if they gonna change the starter or solenoid ?? does anyone know how much it will cost labor only because im gonna buy these stuff from ebay , and are they offer towing in this case for free,
is there is any place i can do this out dealer
thanks
Great the dealer is going to offer the towing but I doubt they will let you bring in your own parts. I have never heard of a dealer letting you bring in your own parts and they install them. Even finding an independent mechanic this can be a problem. They do not want the liability of the unknown parts you bring them. Better check that out before you have it towed.
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My dealer lets me bring parts in if they are not junk or used. They do tell me up front that there will be no warranty.
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Fuse 59 is starter relay.

I wonder what happened. Bad starter or bad relay?
Hey my friend
now im getting more and more confused need your help
now i replaced the starter relay and the same problem
once i turned the key on, the fuse 59 blown
i changed fuse 59 with 20 Amp instead of 15 Amp the same problem
im wondering is this bad starter or something else
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Please do not up the amperage of fuses unless you want spend thousands having melted wiring harnesses replaced. The amp rating is set by designers and engineers that have forgotten more than you or I will will ever know about the W211 chassis.

If you do not not want to go back to the dealer then at least take it a local German shop or even Firestone.
All you keep doing is posting things you doing to try and fix it that are destroying your car and that is all on you. Never tell any shop or dealer that you used a higher amp fuse to try and fix a problem.

Have a shop test the starter. It takes 20 minutes. I already showed you what a value it is at Amazon. You can pay that price or pay MB $800 for the exact same part if the starter tests to be bad.
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Please do not up the amperage of fuses unless you want spend thousands having melted wiring harnesses replaced. The amp rating is set by designers and engineers that have forgotten more than you or I will will ever know about the W211 chassis.

If you do not not want to go back to the dealer then at least take it a local German shop or even Firestone.
All you keep doing is posting things you doing to try and fix it that are destroying your car and that is all on you. Never tell any shop or dealer that you used a higher amp fuse to try and fix a problem.

Have a shop test the starter. It takes 20 minutes. I already showed you what a value it is at Amazon. You can pay that price or pay MB $800 for the exact same part if the starter tests to be bad.
you are right bro
i will take your advice stop testing because this will cost me more than i would like to save by testing.
once i will save money i will tow it to local german shop and ask him to fix it.
thanks for everybody who tried to help me at this awesome forum.
once i will two it to local german shop i will update with details
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