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2001 W210 E55 AMG changed solenoids still not in gear

I have an 01 E55 AMG. 156000 miles on it. Great looking car. As I drove it on the freeway, all of a sudden it seemed like i was in Neutral when i was in drive. Pulled over, shift into Reverse and into Drive, still nothing. I had my buddy tow it to my house. He used his tow truck, back wheels on the ground front wheels up in the air in Neutral. Heard that was a bad move. Few days later, i had another guy look at the transmission, he said my tranny had metal coming out so I need another. 700 bucks later, I bought a used tranny from a trusted scrap yard that had tested it. My newest mechanic says all I need is to change the solenoids so he did that. Get everything in, finally get the scanner to erase all the codes, but still, I go into gear and the car still not moving. I cleaned up my TCP thoroughly. All the connectors all the wires. Still not driving this car. Some body please give me some suggestions besides telling me I need new mechanics and tow drivers!
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What were the fault codes ?

How did your mechanic reset the codes ? from the OBD2 port ?

Does your mechanic have a proper scanner that has a 38 pin connector to access the TCM (transmission Control Module) ?

Have the fault codes come back ? and if so, what are they ?

How did the mechanic determine that the solenoids were bad ?

Does your mechanic know anything about 722.6 transmissions ?
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Here are the codes that came up in the scanner.

P205F=P0753=shift solenoid A electrical

P2060=P0758=shift solenoid B electrical

P2061=P0763=shift solenoid C electrical

P2062=P0743=Torque Converter Clutch Circuit Electrical

The first code had the second code in parentheses. Yes, the mechanic did use a 32 pin. He connected scanner to DA-5, with several different keys, s20 or something, and connected it to port in fuse box. He deleted the codes and they still have not comeback yet. As far as how much he knows about transmissions and solenoids, I'm not sure but I do know that this car is still not moving
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Has he checked the ATF level when the transmission is cool / warmed up ? Sounds like ATF starvation due to a bad pump . I hope he changed the filter with a genuine one and used recommended ATF.

If there are no codes at all, it could be a problem in installation of the solenoids . Were the solenoids new ?

Did you actually get codes from the ORIGINAL transmission also ? It appears that the symptoms are the same for two separate transmissions. Also, did you check that if the new and old transmissions are "compatible" ? (Check coding). Also since you have a facelift car with EGS52 (newer version TCM), it may need top be re-programmed. Maybe MAVA can englighten us once you provide the transmission version code.

I cannot comprehend how a used, and "tested" transmission could have bad solenoids. How the heck they tested it ?
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You can mix and match preface lift and post facelift transmissions all day long, the only physical difference between the two are the shifter interlock. The gear ratio internal are the same, assuming the replacement transmission came out of a vehicle with same engine. V6 to V6 transmission, good to go. V8 to V6, not so good. Gear ratio is so very lightly different.

Incidentally, AMG transmission is different than regular plain Jane transmission.... Gear ratio are different as well... But it won't stop the car from moving. It will enter limp mode once you get moving, but strange that the replacement trans doesn't move at all. That points to a physical problem. Is the transmission cooling lines clogged up? If so, that would explain it.
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You can mix and match preface lift and post facelift transmissions all day long, the only physical difference between the two are the shifter interlock.
I believe the other difference between facelift and pre facelift are that, the pre facelift E55 transmission has the same problems that all the pre 2000s and r129 transmissions have. The pressure regulation spring, K2 bushing, and shifting overlap sleeve.
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What solenoids were used? Genuine Mercedes or some other brand? Genuine Mercedes is the only one to use.
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I believe the other difference between facelift and pre facelift are that, the pre facelift E55 transmission has the same problems that all the pre 2000s and r129 transmissions have. The pressure regulation spring, K2 bushing, and shifting overlap sleeve.
There are a host of difference between the two, but practically speaking, from a installation and running standpoint, they are both identical except for the shifter interlock. Prefacelift uses a mechanical shifter interlock, post uses electronic. But from the TCM perspective, they are identical.

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Now there are no codes or engine lights on at all. Checked the compatibility, and it should be perfect, a 2002 e55 amg transmission put into a 2001 e55 amg. V8 to V8. Definitely compatible. Checked the trans cooling lines, everything there is fine. Still not moving. Do you think it could maybe the torque converter is bad on the tranny?
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Or maybe not transmission at all. Could it just be a bad shifter??
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