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Angry Mileage correction

I am having a lot of grief with something that should be so simple.

My 124/210 conversion needs the 210 instrument head mileage increased by 20k to match the original w124.

Breaker yards have plenty of units but cannot tell the mileage stored on them.

Various mileage correction companies say they need the whole car but it is not yet road legal to take it to them.

Various e bay adverts saying post your instrument to us have not replies to my messages.

My Maxiecu doesn't support this procedure.

Where next???
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If you have a xprog, you can do it yourself.

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Mercedes E Class W210 VDO - 93c56
The mileage is stored in the next lines:
0000: FE C7 FE C7 FE C7 FE C7 FE C7 FE C7 FE C7 FE C7
0010: FE C7 FE C7 FE C7 FE C7 FE C7 FE C7 FE C7 FE C7
where the next bytes:
FE C7 - is a mileage

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xprog?
Do you mean like a basic one from e bay?
Does the chip need to be de soldered or can it be done through the 38pins?

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Yes, you're going to have to desolder it. You can't do anything through OBD or 38-pin...it's all manual correction in BIN files.

And yes, basic one.

Technically speaking you could fill up the mileage with all FF and then it'll be a "virgin" mileage, then possible to modify with autel....but never tried that.

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Where did your quote come from in post 2 Deplore?
Is it somewhere I can read up on?
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I can't really point to a single definitive source, I used a whole bunch of different internet sources to learn how to modify the eeprom bin contents and translating from regular text to hex format. Most modules are encoded like this, and the cluster is no different.

Look up Toyota odometer correction, there's a bunch of guys who did a complete write up. Their principle is pretty much similar to this.
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Hi Deplore.

Still waiting for a cluster to show up on e bay from a w210 or w202 or w208 which has more than 194k. There are many to choose from but the breakers don't know the mileages!
However there is one at 199k from a 97 - 05 sprinter for 36 and I wonder if I can just change the chip into my cluster.
Worth a try for 36 ?

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All clusters are different, so swapping chips won't work. That sprinter mileage is stored in different location, so cluster would be a dead brick.

Even within the same model, you can have three or more clusters with different eeprom and different mileage storage and encryption.

It's easier to get another cluster meant for your specific model.
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Hi Deplore.

Still waiting for a cluster to show up on e bay from a w210 or w202 or w208 which has more than 194k. There are many to choose from but the breakers don't know the mileages!
However there is one at 199k from a 97 - 05 sprinter for 36 and I wonder if I can just change the chip into my cluster.
Worth a try for 36 ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MERCEDES-...53.m1438.l2649
Are you needing a 1996-1999 IC or 2000-2002? The 2000-2002 can be corrected over 38-pin diagnostic connector, and I think the 1996-1999 can be as well, but would have to confirm. When I have the parts available to sell, my policy is typically to renew the cluster with a mileage value of "000000" and when sold, the buyer can adjust the mileage to the correct value, which can be performed by the dealer or Star Diagnostics/Xentry, as it appears to SDS that it is a new part that was just purchased at the parts counter so the software will treat it as one and you just perform an Initial Startup. I ensure all LCD displays and backlighting is working properly and replace the lighting with factory bulbs (slightly higher wattage bulbs melt the plastic).
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Are you needing a 1996-1999 IC or 2000-2002? The 2000-2002 can be corrected over 38-pin diagnostic connector, and I think the 1996-1999 can be as well, but would have to confirm. When I have the parts available to sell, my policy is typically to renew the cluster with a mileage value of "000000" and when sold, the buyer can adjust the mileage to the correct value, which can be performed by the dealer or Star Diagnostics/Xentry, as it appears to SDS that it is a new part that was just purchased at the parts counter so the software will treat it as one and you just perform an Initial Startup. I ensure all LCD displays and backlighting is working properly and replace the lighting with factory bulbs (slightly higher wattage bulbs melt the plastic).
TiffanyTwisted, are you sure that it can be corrected over the 38 pin diagnostic connector? I have a w202 1996 C220 and I was hoping to correct the mileage value too as it is way over my original mileage. I am just afraid to have it done as it might give me other troubles. Only the Star Diagnostics can do this correction?
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