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Headliner Replacement in Alcantera and Roof rattle fix.

Here we have a 1999 E 430 "the victim" due to old age, and major disruption,
the headliner is falling.
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I did a roof rattle repair 2 years ago, and that may have caused some of my
headliner problems.
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As well I had the windows tinted last summer and after that the headliner fell.
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I think the disruption played a part, but the headliner fabric has a foam backing and
that is what deteriorates over time. Touching it or rubbing it will cause it to come lose
before it's time.
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First thing I needed was the sun roof door. The forward inside edge has a black plastic
cover that opens the sun roof door when you open the sun roof. It has little tabs on the ends
pry them inward and pull down on the plastic cover to remove it.
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Here I have released the end tab and am pulling the part down.
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Here is what it looks like removed.
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Now open the sunroof.
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Close the sunroof door.
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This is one of the 4 sliders that support the sunroof door.
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To remove the sunroof door you need to compress the sliders.
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Here I use a knife and lift the door up while the slider is out of the track
do same for the other sliders, and remove door in a forward motion.
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To remove the vents I bent them.
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This is how much you need to bend them to remove, careful.
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The door handle just snaps apart.
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Now that I have the sunroof door I can take it with me to match the color.
At this point I don't know if I will use OEM fabric or Alcantera, I have priced both,
more on that later when I find the best color match.
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Remove the rear lamp and support clip it is behind the lamp.
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Open little doors in the handles
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Unscrew handles, to remove rotate up, they are hooked in.
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Remove sun visors.
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Remove the sun visor catches, you only need to remove the screws
the catch is two pieces.
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Now remove the lens on the over head lights, you will see the metal
release catch on the over head console.
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Release the catches and swing the console down and remove the wires.
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Unplug the wires to the rear view mirror and pull the mirror straight
down.
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To remove the door seals it is best to remove the thresholds first.
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There are two pieces in the rear, see the clip location.
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Front door one piece note clip location. Once the thresholds have been removed
you can remove the door bead/seal and mark them with their location.
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The "A" pillar has 6 clips that are tight, start by pulling at the top, straight away
from the pillar. Don't use any tool to pry the cover off, there are many wires and
an airbag inside.
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Here is a better pic of the angle to pull at.
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This is why you should not any pry tool, wires and airbag.
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In your OEM tool kit you will have a sunroof emergency tool
to open or close your sunroof. for the next item the roof
needs to be open.
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Along the front edge of the sunroof is a channel with a rubber
seal on it, this piece locks the headliner in place. to remove it
pry it straight up.
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Now you can release the 4 clips on the "B" pillar, and move
them out of the way. I plan to recover all the pillars "A,B,C"
I will remove them later.
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To remove the "B" an "C" panels you need to disconnect the seat belts.
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The "C" pillar has 4 clips 3 in the forward section and one in the rear.
once released from the clips pull the panel forward to release the
locking tab in the lower section.
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At this point you can swing the "C" panel out of the way.
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Next we drill out the pop rivets
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Now the headliner is hanging on the rear sunroof interlock.
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To lower the headliner it is a good idea to have a helper
one person on the left one on the right. holding the forward
part of the headliner down slide it forward, and in one
inch it will release from the rear interlock in the sunroof support.
Now that it is free you can withdraw it through the front passenger door.
I don't know if that is the best way or not, I did have to give it a bend
like a taco. It is not easy to remove, but it can be done. try to avoid
bending the metal frame around the sunroof opening.
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Poof it's out, sorry no pics in process, I had my hands full.
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The old fabric comes off quite easily, but the foam backing
is a huge mess.
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Once the fabric was removed we cleaned what was left of old
foam and adhesive, took hours to get it smooth. This part was
important because I have decided to go with Alcantera with out
a foam backing so I did not want imperfections to show through.
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Sunroof door cleaned up nice.
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Here is the first glue, only did the large center part to start with.
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This is the adhesive I used note High Temp, it is a contact cement
and requires a few minutes to tack.
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Here you can see I slowly worked the Alcantera in to the couture
of the headliner shell. (glue, stretch, clamp) This was very difficult
because the Alcantera has very little stretch.
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Many times I would stretch and clamp the Alcantera over night
just to make it fit better.
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Here from the start was my greatest fear, the recess for the sun visors
I glued and clamped right up to it. Then I stretched it and stretched it and
stretched it.
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Much to my surprise the rear over head handles fit the contour of
the sun visor, so I used them as a tool and clamped them to hold
the Alcantera in place. (for a week)
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To pass the time I started to cover the "A" pillars
went right over the OEM covering, no problem.
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