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I believe you can't use ATF on power steering. It will harden the steering and might even lead to an accident. Please, don't .
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Page 6 is a list of all these Dex III ATFs, Castrol, Quakerstate, Pennzoil, Vavoline, Shell, etc. It is the same list in many other MB documents.
mrboca can you please calrify I need to refill my steering fluid, only access is Liquimoly ATF toptec 1200
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I believe you can't use ATF on power steering. It will harden the steering and might even lead to an accident. Please, don't .
says who? based on what evidence?
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mrboca can you please calrify I need to refill my steering fluid, only access is Liquimoly ATF toptec 1200
is the car base model ? does the car have level control (tandem pump)?

If base, the specification is 236.3, and toptec 1200 meets this.
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Jeesh.. an old thread resurrected. My 2 cents; There are somethings in this category you will never have 100% assurance on, in which case just go with the OEM spec fluid. When I flushed my PS system, I bought the fluid from Mercedes.. it's called "Gear Oil" on the bottle. Not cheap but not ridiculous either. It was light amber in color and I was happy to put something in that I know was 100% correct for the vehicle. Truth is, there are probably about 50 different hydraulic oils that will "work" in the system. Long term effects are anybody's guess unless you're part of the Benz engineering team that designed the system. Trans fluid has friction modifiers and different chemistry, so I'm assuming the chemistry and additives of the MB spec oil for power steering is different in that regard too.

My BMW specs Dextron for the PS system, so that's what I use. Trans fluid was a long time standard to use for PS systems especially in American cars. There are people that are likely using incorrect spec fluids in their Mercedes for a number of things without issue, for years. Personally, I'd rather not roll the dice on that for a few bucks in savings.
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I believe the question was whether LiquiMoly ATF toptec 1200 could be used for his car considering that this is his only accessible product, at where he is. The standard power steering fluid spec for his car is MB 236.3 (per BeVo) which the Toptec 1200 meets and exceeds. MB themselves indicate that the Dexron 3 ATF can be used as posted by Prof. Lou

Toptec 1200 can be used in power steering applications. And there is NOTHING really special about the W210 power steering equipment.

https://pim.liqui-moly.de/pidoc/P000...00-25.0-us.pdf
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I totally missed the limited availability and that the location was Nigeria. Good to know Toptec 1200 can be used plus the spec sheet is helpful for other applications.
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On my old W124 300E you could. On the newer ones you shouldn’t

The rule of thumb that I heard was that a Serpentine belt separated the ATF from the newer.

But that wasn’t entirely true as the 300E had a serpentine belt.

Bottom line: You can’t go wrong using the newer more expensive Mercedes formulation.
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Bottom line: You canít go wrong using the newer more expensive Mercedes formulation.
I usually manage to plan service in advance and when you buy from internet supplier, often MB fluid cost +- the same what your local automotive store will sell for Chevy.
It takes certain state of mind to run forum topics for pages, only to get excuse for buying aftermarket stuff for $2 or $5 savings.
I made my mind years ago. Whenever I need fluid, I buy only MB original stuff.
I've been taking my chances with cheaper motor mounts or radiator hoses, but that stuff will not leave you stranded on the road and it will not shorten engine life.
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When I was hunting for leaks on our 98 E320, I replaced the PS reservoir and seals. Place I bought the reservoir from also sold FEBI PS fluid. It meets MB 236.3 and also says it is good for DextronII applications. I believe later model Benzes used a synthetic PS oil with a different spec. Recalled reading they shouldn't be mixed. Dealer parts guys were not too clear on what I should use!

Anyway, if you can find it, the Febi PS fluid is less expensive and does meet the 236.3 spec. Part 08972 (replaces 0009898803) and is made in Germany
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