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K&N air filter for e300td

The air filter for the 1999 E300td looks regular enough until I tried to find a K&N filter. All I see are paper filament replacements. I have had good luck with K&N's in the past and prefer them over OEM replacements. Does anyone know the part number to the K&N that will fit? I assume it is different than the E320, right?? Thanks again for the input. Jae

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RE: K&N air filter for e300td

I have a 96' E 300 D and www.thepartsbin.com had it
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RE: K&N air filter for e300td

I suggest you do some research and reading on the reports on K&N filters. The overwhelming feelings are that a Mercedes diesel gets more air than it needs with the factory filter, that the K&N will allow more dirt to pass through and that the mass air flow sensor is likely to have a much shorter life by using a K&N.

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RE: K&N air filter for e300td

I have three diesels and two of them are turbo.
99' F250 4x4 108,000 miles - had since new
99' Jetta TDI 161,000 miles - have 60K of my own miles.

Now I have a 96 E 300D as well 159,000 miles

All have had K&N filters within the first month of ownership with no MAF sensor problems.

I have used K&N filters almost exclusively since 1994. If you clean and oil them correctly you get more air flow with cleaner air and will cost you less over time.

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RE: K&N air filter for e300td

I found an Accel Kool Blue filter that fits. For reference its item number is KP3332 and can be found at partsamerica.com. I had a difficult time finding this so hope this reference helps others.

Thanks for everyones advice and comments.
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RE: K&N air filter for e300td

Hmmmm, how does any automobile get "more air than it needs?" Is it hyperventilating[8)]

Seriously, any car gets everything it needs until the size of the runners, the diameter, the length, etc limit any additional intake. It's all controlled by the throtle body and measured by the MAF Sensor -- up to the physical limits of the system. The K&N may nudge upward the physical limits.

If I remember my old intake manifold days, the smaller longer runners favor the bottom end and the short fat ones the top end.

When you let a car breathe better, you increase the top end typically.

Make sure you never over-oil the element though. That oil gets "fogged" past the filament of the MAF Sensor it can cause it to fail.

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RE: K&N air filter for e300td

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Hmmmm, how does any automobile get "more air than it needs?" Is it hyperventilating[8)]

Seriously, any car gets everything it needs until the size of the runners, the diameter, the length, etc limit any additional intake. It's all controlled by the throtle body and measured by the MAF Sensor -- up to the physical limits of the system. The K&N may nudge upward the physical limits.

If I remember my old intake manifold days, the smaller longer runners favor the bottom end and the short fat ones the top end.

When you let a car breathe better, you increase the top end typically.
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What you say is true of non-turbocharged vehicles and gasoline engines. Diesels operate on a 40% or more excess of air. Gasoline engines must hew close to the 14:1 ratio.

Here are the facts for the OM606 engine:

I put a boost gauge on mine. The intake manifold never has a vacuum in it. With even slight throttle it has 1-2PSI of boost. Lean into the throttle at all and you are at a ECU limited 12PSI. The engine is never short on air. It is power limited by the ECU through the injection pump. That limitation is there to prevent melting the piston tops. The tuners tweak the upper end of the limit to get a little more torque across the band, mostly in the middle. It is a dangerous game, but OK if you don't use the power often, or for long.

If you really want to pep up an OM606 consider retrofitting a VNT turbocharger to it. That would largely eliminate the turbo delay. If I ever find one cheap, I'll try it. Anyone know where to find a junked MB/Freightliner/Dodge Sprinter engine?

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RE: K&N air filter for e300td

Alan,

You're right. I was referring to a non-boosted gasoline fueled engine.

The scenario you describe, I suspect, would apply to a diesel or gasoline engine with a supercharger or turbocharger in the intake cycle.

Since the airfilter is at the front end of this process, I suspect the best place to test for filter efficiency would be to look for a vaccuum ( if any) between the airfilter and the turbo. If the turbo is trying to pull air faster than the air filter can "let" it through -- I suspect we can improve pumping efficiency a small amount with a lower restriction filter.

I don't know about the particle count for uncollected particulate. K&N says they are as good or better than the paper element based filters.

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stumbled upon an old thread in search of airfilter limitations on the om606 engine, the e300tdt w210 is good for 600hp unopened with a manifold, and modded pump.

have lost power over the last times driven, one of the reasons was the pre-fuelpumps giving up, on totaly dead, and the other building almost zero pressure.

put one new 044 copy in place of the old totaly broken, and used the sad-sounding one as a backup.

drove today, and didnt get above 2.3 bar of boost (33psi of boost) and after a bit of headscratching removed the filter entirely, feeding pure air into the hx40 super,
now we where back in buisness and again over 3.3 bar of boost, 50psi something

anyhow, not entirely the stuff you where discussing, but thought id shim in in the "beware" and regarding melting pistons etc.
with a stock turbo i see almost no reason to swap out the airfilter, stock is better, and "cleaner" imo. althou you could probably get a little bit more turbowhisstle with an sportfilter

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