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Starter / solinoid wire issue

Hello, new to the forum!

I have a 2000 ML430, no start condition. Pulled off the inner fender liner and found two wires bad ( small wire to solinoid broken and braided wire from starter to solinoid broken).

Obviously I need to replace the starter and repair the solinoid wire - HOWEVER....

I had a friend help me run a test on the starter circuit. I put a test light on the small wire that goes to the solinoid, when he turns the key to start, the test light LIGHTS, when he released the key, the light stayed lite for about five seconds (5)!?!?

I assume that I have a a worn part in the key area.....any thoughts on what part returns the key to the run position from the start position? Procedure to remove?

Fyi - I have taken apart countless Asian vehicles....this seems very different. I'd appreciate any tips, tricks, part #'s and /or procedures.

I currently have the plastic surround pieces off the column and pulled off the large black plastic plug with wires from the back.....next?????

Thanks in advance! Joel
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Repair the solenoid wire, but new starter is required when the braided wire is damaged.
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I had a friend help me run a test on the starter circuit. I put a test light on the small wire that goes to the solinoid, when he turns the key to start, the test light LIGHTS, when he released the key, the light stayed lite for about five seconds (5)!?!?
This is normal operation of "tip start" Engine control module will hold starter engaged until engine starts or about up to 10 seconds.
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This is normal operation of "tip start" Engine control module will hold starter engaged until engine starts or about up to 10 seconds.
Wow, really? If this is the case, does that mean the starter is spun with the engine for up to 10 seconds? Would seem to me that it would burn up a starter quicker that way. I thought it immediately retracted after releasing the key??????
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Wow, really? If this is the case, does that mean the starter is spun with the engine for up to 10 seconds? Would seem to me that it would burn up a starter quicker that way. I thought it immediately retracted after releasing the key??????


I think you miss understand. It will run the starter for up to 10 seconds in a non engine starting situation to prevent starter over heating. As soon as the engine starts the starter stops.
You do not need to hold the key in the start position. Turn it to start and let it go. It will do the rest.


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