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Awesome, Brian. Car looks fantastic.

I was in Las Vegas once and experienced 121 degrees. I was sure I could see my wood pieces cracking before my eyes. Good move on the tint.
That's what it would regularly get up to in Lancaster, and why I fled to the East Coast!
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post #102 of 111 (permalink) Old 06-11-2019, 11:41 AM Thread Starter
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Hi Brian,

So I started making a 3D model of the "Sails" It's mostly done, I just need to finish it up and then reverse it.

Once finished I may put them up on Shapeways?

I have a number of parts I made up in SolidWorks.
That would be amazing!

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That tint stuff sounds good. Its nice to be able to see into the interiors of these too, especially on the SEC with its pillarless design. Sometimes dark tint can lose that on those I think.

If your sunroof is at a slight angle but evenly so, it could just be the timing. Theres a knob on the motor to temporarily disconnect the 'clutch' on the mechanism. Then you can nudge the motor one way or the other and pop the knob back in to see how it is.
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post #104 of 111 (permalink) Old 06-23-2019, 01:32 AM Thread Starter
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I've pulled out most of the seats and panelling now - will be working with a local interior expert (Nick at Interstate Custom Interior) to replace all of the leather in the car with GAHH products. The front seats (since they have a heating element) are a little tricky, as I believe GAHH has to do part of the upholstering. Besides replacing all the leather, GAHH also offers full replacement carpet which I'm going to do also. This whole process is pricey for sure, but I think it'll be worth it. Just need to pull the drivers seat and load everything into the truck- he'll be starting on everything Monday

I still haven't gotten my wood back yet - tried reaching out, not sure if Igor has a massive backlog. Will have to call him to follow up as it was supposed to be done ~June 6th


Huge props to @KRH for this post:
https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w12...l#post15620850

I've taken front seats out of parts cars, but always broke some plastic bits or messed something up in the process. Following these steps was quick and easy- the only thing I'd add:
The two plastic covers that are on the front have (at least in the Gen 2 models) a small circle in them. This is the perfect size for you to put your finger in and pull towards the front of the car. This should release the clip, after which you can easily (but still carefully) wiggle out the brittle plastic
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1991 560SEC; 145,187 miles
2013 GL550; 99,960 miles

Previous cars
2007 S550; 146,541 miles (sold)
2009 C300; 95,861 miles (sold)
2006 S430; 101,719 miles (sold)
2001 SL500; 114,032 miles (sold)
1986 560SEL; 150,276 miles (hit by drunk driver)
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Here is another great tip Brian in relation to those rear passenger side trim panels that cover the seat belt arms.

Usually when trying to remove the small insert panel to access the wires that come from the passenger grab handle switch to control the passenger side windows - you usually damage the little plastic push fit clips that hold the insert panel to the side panel.

Best to cut the wires coming from the switch near the spade end that screws to junction joiner and make up an extension harness that makes the switch wires harness about 2 feet long.
Even better make up bullet connectors for each wire so the wire spade ends can be screwed in back to the junction box and the wire length with the bullet connectors is long enough to reach about 6" past the door opening.
By doing this it means the trim insert panel can be re-installed properly into the side panel before it goes back in the car (means you have access to the rear to make sure the small insert panel is well secured and nice and tight on all edges with no gaps

Then when going to re-install the side panel you have enough lead to have the panel in the car ready to go into position - but before you slide it in place you join the wires with the bullet connectors and then ease the panel into position

Another trick with that annoying screw that has to go back into to the bottom of the grab handle to secure it to the chassis - is whist the panel is out of the car - place the screw into the handle metal hole and use a small o-ring on the thread to hold the screw in place whilst re-installing the panel "with the handle in place" with window switch hanging loose.
Once you have top of the handle in place then you can screw in the screw to secure the bottom of the handle
By not using the 0-ring method often the screw gets dislodged and falls down the back of the panel which is so frustrating.
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With the car being undriveable, I'm definitely missing the coupe! At least it looks good in the garage

- I've gotten basically all of the interior removed at this point. The interior specialist I'm working with has ordered replacement leather and carpeting from GAHH. They make the seat covers to order, so that'll take a week or two... and I believe the front seats (since they have heaters) need to have the heating element removed from the existing seat and mailed to them, so they can sew it in.

- Igor is wrapping the wood up right now - will be great getting that back, but definitely not in a hurry. Mostly just excited to see how it all looks (and to share a before/after shot)

- While the car is pulled apart, I'm trying to sort out as many broken bits as I can and also clean in the spots that are usually hard to reach. I got a complete working rear sunscreen on eBay for $350 shipped and will be using parts from it to get my unit repaired. Just need to take off the C pillars and the hat tray should come right out (got everything else taken out). Lots of GREAT threads here on BenzWorld on the topic. I also have a spare Volvo antenna mast just in case- thanks to @KRH for the heads up here:
https://www.benzworld.org/forums/w12...l#post17711644

- I took off the door sills and sanded rust off, prepped it, and hit those areas with POR. Definitely happy with that product Most of the rust I've had to fix has been around the door frames

After all this work is done, I've been in contact with someone who can do a proper appraisal on the car. Even with everything in mint shape, OEM parts, rebuilt transmission, etc... the car still has 145k miles on it. I'm thinking the max it could be evaluated at would be $15k USD, but we'll see. Basically, I'm just wanting to make sure I have enough insurance coverage that driving won't be super scary after dumping this money in. With the last 126 I had (560SEL), a drunk driver hit us after I spent a ton fixing it up... totaled the car. I had to do a lot of fighting with insurance and the most I got was $4,500 Hoping that having this up front and then looking at classic car insurances might help (any advice super appreciated)
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2013 GL550; 99,960 miles

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2007 S550; 146,541 miles (sold)
2009 C300; 95,861 miles (sold)
2006 S430; 101,719 miles (sold)
2001 SL500; 114,032 miles (sold)
1986 560SEL; 150,276 miles (hit by drunk driver)
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Not exactly tied to this car, but definitely 126 related - I have been talking with @mclare and ended up purchasing the remainder of his parts stash It's loaded up on a U-Haul "UBox" and will arrive here in Arizona within the next two weeks. Should have a replacement for the seat belt presenter I broke along with a ton of other great parts

Will be sure to take pics and share once I have a chance to go through it all

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2006 S430; 101,719 miles (sold)
2001 SL500; 114,032 miles (sold)
1986 560SEL; 150,276 miles (hit by drunk driver)
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Fixed up the seat belt presenter tonite! This was something I had broken when taking off the rear interior door panel

I had to get a replacement plastic rod (the part the motor pushes) for the passenger side (part# 000-860-0222). This ended up being a lot easier than I thought it would be! Basically, you just need to mark a few places (I used tape):
- where the end of the rod stick out (through the end). so you know how far back to push the rod
- where the spring ends when it has tension
- just for good measure: where the 8mm screw is when it's tightened

Basically, you can just release the tension by undoing the bolt and then the spring will come right off. After this is off, you can pull the adjustment wires down (the whole assembly- the one that has two screws on top) and it moves out of the way in one piece. Then, you can push the gear down and feed the rod through. When doing this, I really thought hard about ordering replacement gears (either hard resin or metal) after reading this thread. The teeth overall looked good to me though, so I just put it back together. The motor itself also has a plastic gear when you remove the motor casing

Since my seats are out, the presenters aren't moving. Not sure if there's a way to test them - I saw mentions of pulling the fuse to reset
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2013 GL550; 99,960 miles

Previous cars
2007 S550; 146,541 miles (sold)
2009 C300; 95,861 miles (sold)
2006 S430; 101,719 miles (sold)
2001 SL500; 114,032 miles (sold)
1986 560SEL; 150,276 miles (hit by drunk driver)

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And here's a post I've been waiting a while to share! I hit up @mclare a while back about his parts collection, after he moved to the east coast. He got back to me a few months ago... and it took a while to coordinate... but we got it figured out and everything is now integrated into my parts stash

The weather here when I've been sorting through all of this has been around 104F (40C) - ridiculously hot. But lots of great parts here! I've been adding a lot of items to my eBay to help recoup the cost of buying/shipping everything and I'll also be sharing items for sale here (and of course, if you see anything on my eBay, shoot me a DM)
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1991 560SEC; 145,187 miles
2013 GL550; 99,960 miles

Previous cars
2007 S550; 146,541 miles (sold)
2009 C300; 95,861 miles (sold)
2006 S430; 101,719 miles (sold)
2001 SL500; 114,032 miles (sold)
1986 560SEL; 150,276 miles (hit by drunk driver)

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Haha! I've seen those little tackle boxes full of hardware when I visited mclare one time in Socal. What a score you got!
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