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Wonderful thread!....like old times...(sigh)
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That silver Amg

Hi guys any widebodys for sale
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Stellar example

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Hi guys any widebodys for sale
Sure is ! There's a very nice dipped black-on-black one with documented AMG 6L having only 24K miles & a clear FLA title for sale here: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 560 for Sale - 861125 - duPontREGISTRY.com.
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RARE COLLECTIBLE, Top-of-the-Line Flagship Mercedes-Benz 6.0 SEC AMG WIDEBODY with 24K original miles. This is an original & complete, real-deal (authentic - not after-market) 6.0 Liter SEC AMG WIDEBODY built at the AMG plant in Affalterbach, Germany. This AMG originally cost around $140K & is referred to by many as the "Gull-Wing of the 1980's" - "the perfect combination of beauty, elegance & performance of a motorcar from the house of AMG." This extremely rare car has been regularly maintained, pampered and climate-control garaged. No accidents, no dents, no dings & no smoke, and the original spare tire is still in the trunk. The car comes with a clear Florida title with mileage (in kilometers) documented thereon, and a copy of the original Guarantee from AMG Motorenbau GmbH.
Why, you looking for one?
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Thumbs up Widebody in DuPont Registry

Not to deflect the conversation from the silver bullet in Portland, but does anyone know any specifics about this car?

1987 Mercedes-Benz 560 for Sale - 861125 - duPontREGISTRY.com

And, assuming it is correct in all respects, what is a fair price. I know that is hard to answer but if it does not require any significant repairs, there must be a range of value for a car like this.

Thank you.

OH--I'm relatively knew to AMG modified cars--is this car properly referred to as a Hammer? Would it have dual overhead cams.

Thanks again. If you would like to respond to me privately, my e-mail is [email protected]

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Not to deflect the conversation from the silver bullet in Portland, but does anyone know any specifics about this car?

1987 Mercedes-Benz 560 for Sale - 861125 - duPontREGISTRY.com

And, assuming it is correct in all respects, what is a fair price. I know that is hard to answer but if it does not require any significant repairs, there must be a range of value for a car like this.

Thank you.

OH--I'm relatively knew to AMG modified cars--is this car properly referred to as a Hammer? Would it have dual overhead cams.

Thanks again. If you would like to respond to me privately, my e-mail is [email protected]

Thanks again.
The dupont 32v example is worth every penny of the asking price. Unfortunately it will require patience to find the appropriate new owner in the current economic climate even for that refined example.

IMHO, it'd be snatched up for $25-30k but would sell for $33-$35k.

"Hammer" was a termed coined by an American automobile periodical in 86/87 after having test driven/reviewed the introduction of the almighty AMG 32v W124 four door sedan.

It's been used for anything from a color coded standard us sedan to anything example with 32v valves since.

This term has been discussed and flogged elsewhere and is disputable but IMHO the true "Hammer" is the one vehicle that the magazine tested that day, period.
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The Dupont car is in great condition, unlike that silver one in Portland. It's really as good as it gets. Priced a little high, but around $30-35K would be fair in today's market; less would be a steal. As 48hp says, $25K would be well worth it.
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The duPont car is a SOHC 6.0 - not a quad cam - if you look closely at the engine pic. Given that, the value in the $30-$35k range is probably solid. Value is highly volatile based on the total picture and package. If the suspension bits are old and have not been replaced, the tranny needs work, if the rear engine seal is weeping, etc... can all add up to a chunk of needed maintenance, regardless of very low miles.

If the duPont WB is fresh with all new MB bits, then high $30's - $40K is very fair. I know I wouldn't take a penny less than $35k for my AMG - its essentially 100% new (mechanically). If the duPont car had Recaros, door wood and refinished wheels, it would be worth over $40k. If it had a 32v engine plus the above, $45k.

Value is based on rarity (i.e. widebody), provenance (original AMG docs, ownership history, receipts, matching #'s on engine/tranny), condition (how fresh are the mechanicals, condition of the paint and body), and high value options (Recaros, AMG suspension, Sebring exhaust, wheels, engine mods).

You see it time after time at Barrett-Jackson auctions - the rare cars with matching #'s, verified VIN's, recent big buck restorations and the right original options = highest prices.

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Love to see the car break high $30s / $40K. However --

*Even with all the right bits and all the provenance and proper maintenance, the market for these W126 cars is niche and not all that liquid
*Plus, the days of people using their overvalued homes as piggy banks to buy toys like this are over

So I'd be surprised if it sells that high. That said, I'd like to be surprised .

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Love to see the car break high $30s / $40K. However --

*Even with all the right bits and all the provenance and proper maintenance, the market for these W126 cars is niche and not all that liquid
*Plus, the days of people using their overvalued homes as piggy banks to buy toys like this are over

So I'd be surprised if it sells that high. That said, I'd like to be surprised .
Me too! Well said, though.

However, I'd take an awesome fresh WB for $45k all day long over, say, a twice as costly restored 69 Camaro Z-28 or similar GTO or Mustang Boss 302. Late 80's WB = comfortable, modern, high performance, quiet, no rattles, A/C that works, etc....

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1984 500SEL AMG -5.4L, Sebring exhaust, full suspension, 2.82 LSD, 8"/9" wheels, Recaros, door wood, Clarion rack stereo. Anthracite Grey/Black
1985 500SEC AMG Widebody, 199/278, 5.4L DOHC 32v, Sebring, suspension, fridge
1986 560SEC

Priors:
1990 560SEC AMG 6.0L, 149 Arctic White/Blue
1994 E500, 147 Polar White/Grey
1990 560SEC, 199 Blue Black/Black (Japan)
1991 560SEC, 040 Black/Palomino
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1987 560SEC
1995 E420
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