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The last HC (11.5-1 engine) that BT build blew up quite spectacularly...but that's another story.
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Jono - great point. And, supposedly, BTE had experience and knew what they were doing! So either that's not true....or, you have to be careful what you are doing with these motors. Its not a Ford or Chevy big block that you can cheaply tweak and rebuild if you blow it up! Plus, we aren't talking race track here where the pit crew can tear down the motor and rebuild it after every major thrashing.

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Ah, and a taller rear end ratio also make a BIG difference. 3:07 may be the limit if one still wants to cruise at 80 mph on the highway for long hours.
No point in building a worked engine if you cant max out 300kph speedo IMO
The spirit of these cars lies in smooth sustaind high speed crusing not being first off at the lights,lumpy idle and all or nothing power delivery.
If your going to go 3/07 would be better with a manual gearbox with o/d 5th gear.


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No point in building a worked engine if you cant max out 300kph speedo IMO
Then you need seriously big power (twin turbo?) and big work on aerodynamics.

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The spirit of these cars lies in smooth sustaind high speed crusing not being first off at the lights,lumpy idle and all or nothing power delivery.
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That's my point. Performance comes at a compromise.

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If your going to go 3/07 would be better with a manual gearbox with o/d 5th gear.
That's what I'm doing, but with a 3,27 ratio. I'm targeting 250 km/h with a '62 W111 Coupe:
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There was a set of headers produced by SuperchargedSEC for sale that were never mounted they were jet coated and in the end available for a mere $900 not long ago. Didn't sell the first time around.
and my point is that if a set of custom headers that are already coated couldn't find a buyer at $900 not sure that there will be many takers at $1200 for an untreated set.

Besides the OEM cast iron tri-y manifolds are the most efficient, reliable, durable, proven and tested manifold available, period. There is little room for improvement if any at all.

I also realize that they are not available on every street corner. Might I suggest that a set of AMG headers be located and replicate those. They are already designed, tried, tested and also proven. That will cut the cost.


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I might add along that thought, that Hartmut commented to me that cast manifolds do/did flow better then the hand made bits.. On the twin cam engines there was a decided power increase once they had cast manifolds available.

I showed the AMG headers to my pipe bender and he wasn't @ all impressed w/ the design..basically stating one could put together a much better flowing set of pipes using what's been learned in the last 20 years.


FWIW, when I endeavored to set out on a header project we were going to use all stainless and the price would have been the same, 2K..

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I showed the AMG headers to my pipe bender and he wasn't @ all impressed w/ the design..basically stating one could put together a much better flowing set of pipes using what's been learned in the last 20 years.


FWIW, when I endeavored to set out on a header project we were going to use all stainless and the price would have been the same, 2K..

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Exactly why I am not hunting down a set (Or asking Jim to borrow his set.) I showed Tom pics of that set you had and he said the same thing, That he could design a much better set and to just let him do his thing.

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Why dont you guys just buy that Supercharger kit from that Estonian guy? He posted pics and stuff about it a few months ago. He is also selling 5spd conversion kits.

My next MB project will be a M120 swap into a w126 or a m119 into a w201. I'll probably swap all the electronics over as well. I don't think I have Satish's patience to integrate everything.
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He said that he would take my two Eueo motors as soon as I could get them to him (without me paying a deposit because I told him I was committed to a bunch of stuff and he said that was okay, he trusted me) so he could start taking measurements and laying out a plan. This guy is from Poland and was trained on MB's not Fords. But, he lives in SoCal and what do we have the majority of here that ppl dumpo money into? American Muscle cars, so that's what he does. But, there are hundreds of shops that do that and very few as we all know that can muscle mod a M117 motor.

It's not like our motors can't take it guys. We all know they are built like tank motors.

He said he is going to be very reasonable with us because he sees the potential. So if you have any specific questions or concerns, post them or email me and I will relay them to him.

A true metallurgist! Do you have his contact information and what does he charge?
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