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Careful, Roberts link is for pre facelift cars. I don't remember what car op has. They are not interchangeable.
Duly noted. Mine are the later-model ones, with the smaller, non-replaceable ball joints.

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I have recently purchased a pair of Lemforder LCA for my 1995 A124 Sportline Cabriolet.

It's interesting to note that the rubber bushes in the new Lemforder arms have the same part numbers as in the original arms, and the orientation of the I, II and III marks on the bushes are identical, indicting the same manufacturing process as the Mercedes branded LCA.

Left = 10973 02
Right = 10974 02

Also worth noting that the ball-joint inserts on the original LCA are stamped with both the MB logo and 'TRW', which is a sister company of ZF along with Lemforder.










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I have recently purchased a pair of Lemforder LCA for my 1995 A124 Sportline Cabriolet.

It's interesting to note that the rubber bushes in the new Lemforder arms have the same part numbers as in the original arms, and the orientation of the I, II and III marks on the bushes are identical, indicting the same manufacturing process as the Mercedes branded LCA.

Left = 10973 02
Right = 10974 02

Also worth noting that the ball-joint inserts on the original LCA are stamped with both the MB logo and 'TRW', which is a sister company of ZF along with Lemforder.












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And these replacement Lemforder LCA have the pink lower and red upper sealing bands on the ball joint
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Unless you have come into some NOS stuff, Lemforder suspension parts are now made in China. Maybe they're holding their feet to the fire somehow and maybe they're still the same quality as before......anything is possible although I've seen few things consistently made well from China.

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Packaging for both LCA stamped 'Made in Italy'

ZF is a global brand, with many subsidiaries.

I had a detailed discussion with ZF technical here in UK, and they have recently dropped the Lemforder branded parts in favour of TRW.
They claim the same quality and manufacture, simply a consolidation of these now niche 'youngtimer' parts.

I will check with my local motor factor if any of their ZF family parts are made in China, something I personally would doubt given the strength of the ZF brand in Europe.
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So does this mean lemfoerder will be cleared out, and only trw will remain?
Just got some Sachs shocks, another zf brand. Wonder if they will become trw too.


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Italy....wow. They are indeed stamped TRW in the pic. This just gets murkier and murkier......I was told production moved to China.

Could you please remove your double post....hard to scroll through two identical sets of pics.

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So does this mean lemfoerder will be cleared out, and only trw will remain?
Just got some Sachs shocks, another zf brand. Wonder if they will become trw too.
Did your Sachs shocks have 'Made in Germany' stamped on them still? Mine did a couple of yrs ago.....just curious.

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Careful, Roberts link is for pre facelift cars. I don't remember what car op has. They are not interchangeable.
So the Description is bogus?


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