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I have a E320 1995 Sedan with 98k miles. I am starting to look into suspension. I am trying to do a slow process of swapping parts like springs, struts, shocks, rims.
I love Mercedes comfort suspension and all, but I want a more sporty lowered ride. I am definitely not getting coil overs or bags, can't afford it!

I found these stagg 4 struts and shocks and vogtland sport lowering springs on ebay for really cheap: https://www.ebay.com/itm/STAGG-4-STR...5/312288714318

I really need help cause I don't know if those are good.

Could I maybe use lowering springs with Oem struts/shocks?

If I lower my car could I put 16 or 17 inch rims?

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I was very happy with my sportline suspension 124 when I had it. So I converted my 201 to sportline. Pretty satisfied.

Though I did not go that route, the dealer actually had all the parts available for the 201 . And not that expensive either.
Only dealer part I would stay away from is the struts and shocks. Those are way too expensive and the Bilestein B8 -HD's are of equivalent feel and quality for $250 for the fronts and half that for the rears.

I say go sportline suspension which was tuned pretty well for sporty ride and comfort.

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I have heard good things about sport line suspension but it will probably cost a lot more than these ebay springs for the struts and shocks that were designed to work with each other. I have done some research and both brands have good comments. I just want to know if anyone has tried this on a w124
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I have a E320 1995 Sedan with 98k miles. I am starting to look into suspension. I am trying to do a slow process of swapping parts like springs, struts, shocks, rims.
I love Mercedes comfort suspension and all, but I want a more sporty lowered ride. I am definitely not getting coil overs or bags, can't afford it!

I found these stagg 4 struts and shocks and vogtland sport lowering springs on ebay for really cheap: https://www.ebay.com/itm/STAGG-4-STR...5/312288714318

I really need help cause I don't know if those are good.

Could I maybe use lowering springs with Oem struts/shocks?

If I lower my car could I put 16 or 17 inch rims?

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Get KYB monotube shocks and struts. Most MB owners are deathly afraid of anything made in Japan so these end up being an extremely good value. Also these will far outlive the garbage Bilstein is manufacturing today in Eastern Europe and China. Try finding a monotube Bilstein or Sachs shock anywhere near this price.
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FYI, my bilstein's had a made in Germany marker on them. Hope it is true.
Bought them thru tire-rack.

I heard good things about KYB's as well.

I believe Benz Sportline springs are ~120 for front and ~80 for rears. Anti-roll bars are ~$210. This is all for W201 but I assume W124 is similar.

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I have no idea about Staggs, but a friend just ordered a set for his W201. I looked up reviews online and there were a number of forum folks stating that they're great for the price. And I'm sure they are compared to blown factory shocks. I suggested that if he wants cheap shocks to get a set from the local parts store with lifetime warranty so that when they start leaking in 5k miles you can at least go swap them over the counter. They will go even faster paired with lowering springs.
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Alright thx for your opinions I think I'm gonna go with the stags when I can install them.
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Alright thx for your opinions I think I'm gonna go with the stags when I can install them.
When you do install them, make sure you use the correct plate type spring compressor. These springs are no joke and are vastly more powerful than springs in any modern Macpherson strut suspension

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I really want them, but the bigger problem is installing them. I kinda know how to do it with instructions I see, but I don't have car jacks or stand or experience. So I called my local mechanic shop and they said 600 to do all 4 shocks, struts, and springs. So is that a fair price?
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Get KYB monotube shocks and struts. Most MB owners are deathly afraid of anything made in Japan so these end up being an extremely good value. Also these will far outlive the garbage Bilstein is manufacturing today in Eastern Europe and China. Try finding a monotube Bilstein or Sachs shock anywhere near this price.
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really? every time I put KYB on a car, they lasted 10-20K miles then were mush. Most recently, on a 2004 Camry LE, when KYB was about the *only* shock I could find. previously, I used them on a 1989 VW Jetta GLI... after 2 sets of KYBs I finally listened to someone smart, and put Boge Progas on that car (along with Neuspeed progressive springs) and those shocks lasted the last 120K miles I owned it and were STILL damping as good as new.

My wife's 94 E320T, we put bilstein touring on the front when we got it (the rear of the wagon is SLS of course), and its still riding and handling great and she's put like 40K or 50K miles on that car and often drives like a teenager.

When I got my 93 300CE Cabrio, it had nearly new Napa shocks which I determined were rebranded Monroes, when I first got it, it was tracking the road just great... 10k or 20k miles later, they are mush, and the car is wallowing on the turns and on bumps. I'm about ready to think about a replacement. sad, but I'm not sure the proper strut mount for the left front shock which is under the vibration damper plate is available anymore, and IIRC, the cabrio uses very specific shocks. I kinda wish I could convert my cabrio to sportline, but I just don't think that's an option I can afford, so I'll probably get Bilstein HD and see how they work.


sad, I know, ALL these brands are selling junk now
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