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IMO, if you're asking premium prices your products better come with a "premium" warranty preferably lifetime unlimited miles.

Hell I can get a 1 year warranty from URO and other Chinese rubber dogshite.
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I would imagine a W124 "coilover" kit would be similar to accommodate the spring perch and not the shock tower.


That picture you posted is actually of a standard rear w124 spring – but with an internal coil spring removal tool being used!



To clarify I was really making reference to the front shock towers. This is an example of an actual generic w124 coil over kit pictures
https://catuned.com/w124-1993-1995-m...pring-separate

First lets talk about the OE upper shock mount. This was a rubber mount which eliminates the potential for road noise transfer from the shock strut through the car. I have fitted metal adjustable camber plates before on a w124 and the road noise transfer was so horrible I removed them within 10 miles of fitting and put new OE back in.

Secondly – by the definition of a coil over setup there will be a coil spring on the shock itself. This will be adding loading onto the shock tower that it is not deigned to take at all. There appears to be no second spring for the front end in that kit pictured..... (And the same issue of road noise due to the metal on metal contact unlike OE – with more impact loads coming up there too)

Finally – be mindful that these kits will use the same springs for perhaps 100’s of different car makes and models. The only thing custom about them will be that they weld on the brackets to fit your car and select the appropriate sized tube / spring from a shelf. Whereas for the Sportline setup MB would have spent many 1000’s of hours developing the bespoke performance suspension components for their own chassis.

To be blunt these coil over kits are total garbage for a w124 chassis, go against the car’s most basic suspension design strategies and you will 100% waste your money on such kits. Much better spent on Sportline or Bilstein Sport suspension kits which will give you comfort and not destroy the handling / ride quality of the car. Don't forget swaybar upgrades too (Sportline spec would include that - please use search function for sway bar upgrades)
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^This. Coil over kits = toys for the Fast & Furious crowd

Those anodized strut mounts must add at least 20 ponies.

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As mentioned by JC220, these will not work on a 124 without causing damage and ridiculous amounts of discomfort. You would need a massive strut brace to tie both shock towers together AFTER reinforcing the area around the upper shock mount to control the constant flexing.

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LOL @sbaert , I'm new to Benz, I'm more into VIP style cars which i am building. Not into being fast and furious i like to be low to the ground as much possible. Anyway my w124 wagon is my daily driver but i feel the need to slam Not just "lower" the car. So I looked at options and ceika coils seemed like an easy plug and play kind of deal. Now im seeing a lot of other options thanks to you guys.
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@Robert Kyle ahhh I got u thank u for making it clear
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@JC220 thank you! I see better options now, and thanks for all the helpful info!
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Define "slam". As in getting highsided on a speedbump at a McDonalds drive thru? That don't sound very VIP to me.
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@sbaert im on here looking for help/advice. Dont need your smart ass remarks
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Sounds like we've got a card carrying member of the club of broken rides a.k.a. "Stance nation, yo"

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