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@dolucasi Thanks for the suggestion!

Do you guys know of any product that help clean corrosion off of aluminum parts like my intake manifold, alternator, power steering pump and other brackets, etc.? Also, while I will definitely be going with the MB head gasket kit, what about the valve cover kit? I've seen Elring and Victor Reinz as much cheaper alternatives to MB for the valve cover kit.
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Any part that is not electrical should be tossed in the steam oven with the head at the machine shop. It will come out clean (like your piston) and will look like brand new out of factory. Wish I had done that myself as I had to clean the intake manifold with diesel, ours on end. Busted my back in the process as it was not out of the car. The head/valves etc. that the machine shop pre-cleaned were spotless.

As for the gaskets, good you decided with genuine Mercedes on the head kit, it is a job you want to repeat.

I have a cheepo Victor Reinz in hand and have never used it. Keeping it for some sort of emergency. Mercedes one that I have re-used 4 times I opened the valve cover is very substantial. I would not trust the Victor Reinz (flimsy) but then again changing the valve cover is a 15 minute job so you can afford to take risks. I would not want oil leaking on the brand new looking head though.

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I got the exhaust manifolds removed from the head real quick yesterday. No drama there. Interestingly, the original gaskets have the MB star stamped on them as well as the Elring logo. Apparently Elring is the OEM for those.
I also hooked up my new Noko G15000 battery charger to the battery in the car. So far, that charger is bringing that battery back from the dead nicely. Itís a sad thing, that battery. I bought it brand new the day the car died as an attempt to get the car to start. It has been sitting ever since. Thankfully, that Bosch battery has a 3 year free replacement warranty in case I canít get it to revive fully.




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Interestingly, the original gaskets have the MB star stamped on them as well as the Elring logo. Apparently Elring is the OEM for those.
Yup, Elring is OEM for head gaskets on some engines, including the M104 and OM602/603. I believe Victor-Reinz is OEM for the 4.2L/5.0L M119 head gaskets; but Elring is OEM for the 6.0L M119. Go figure.
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The battery in the car reached 100% using that charger! That's pretty awesome. Now I am in a holding pattern until I can figure out where the parts funds are coming from. Hopefully, it won't be too long.


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Very interesting project there! Any clue yet as to what caused the initial failure? By the way, the car looks VERY good to be so old in Upstate New York. Any secret to keeping it so nice?

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But also, Boston, MA, where the fight against rust is unending.
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Very interesting project there! Any clue yet as to what caused the initial failure? By the way, the car looks VERY good to be so old in Upstate New York. Any secret to keeping it so nice?



Cheers and good luck with the rest of the project!



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But also, Boston, MA, where the fight against rust is unending.
If you are referring to the OP's original head gasket, the failure is caused by a design flaw in the gasket.

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Very interesting project there! Any clue yet as to what caused the initial failure? By the way, the car looks VERY good to be so old in Upstate New York. Any secret to keeping it so nice?

Cheers and good luck with the rest of the project!

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As some others have pointed out, it looks like the gasket was starting to allow coolant to "seep" into #5 and 6 for some time even though I never noticed a loss of coolant, smoke from the tailpipe or drive-ability issues. The car never overheated either, even during it's final moments. I believe that as soon as I turned off the key, that is when the inrush of coolant happened and basically hydrolocked the motor.

Sadly, the body on the car looks terrible now with the clearcoat pealing off everywhere and some spots of surface rust. The key, if anything though, is that I bought the car with 70K on it from (basically) the original owner who lived in Florida. The car was immaculate when I bought it. 4 years in NY took quite a toll but the undercarriage is still in great shape.
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Got the block surface cleaned up over the weekend. I should be able to order parts this week!




This thing is going to need a good acid flush when Iíve got it running again. There are some coolant passages that are nasty!


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Yup, Elring is OEM for head gaskets on some engines, including the M104 and OM602/603. I believe Victor-Reinz is OEM for the 4.2L/5.0L M119 head gaskets; but Elring is OEM for the 6.0L M119. Go figure.
So between choosing the Elring head gasket kit for $63 (FCPEuro) or the MB kit for $115 (Pelican parts), what to do?
Can you tell from the pic which is which?


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