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Thanks for the input!

Can anyone point me to a link on how to check the operation of the fan clutch?

And is there a recommendation on acceptable brands of radiator?
A quick search brought this:

https://www.benzworld.org/forums/r129...an-clutch.html

I won't get in to the "best brand" debate..........
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mercedes radiators are/were made by Behr. Nissens are decent too. thats pretty much it for direct fit quality radiators for these cars.


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I did a lot of research on the radiators and it seems like a bit of a toss-up. Some say the Nissens has heavier and better plastic, so the lack of metal reinforcement in the necks isn't a big deal. Others say it is. I went ahead and bought the Nissens, but have not installed it yet. I will make the following comments based on what I know of the radiator that came out and what I can see of the Nissens.

While the metal inserts in the Behr will probably help avoid a catastrophic neck failure, they do not prevent the necks from cracking around the inserts from old age. I know this, because mine has cracks. In other words, after 15 years or so you might start getting leaking from the cracks, but the neck probably won't just snap off.

The Nissens is lighter weight and clearly has less structure. It is concerning me a bit. Then again, maybe the aluminum frame isn't that important? I can't tell by looking at it whether or not the plastic is better or thicker. It was less expensive than the Behr and feels it, to some extent. Now that I know how easy it is to replace, I am just going to factor it in as a later maintenance item. Maybe just replace it again in 5 years or something, if I even still have this car by then.
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In the interest of keeping this thread going...

I decided to live dangerously again and ordered the Fichtel-Sachs clutch/fan blade combo. Much to my surprise, the clutch is actually made by Horton in Germany, which is the brand everyone says we want. So, hopefully this one will last more than 15K miles.

An additional note on the Nissens radiator. It fits almost perfectly, but there is a plastic tab on the upper passenger side that interferes and must be removed in order to get the radiator mounted flush. I carefully ground about half of it off with my dremel. Also, the top of the radiator sits slightly lower, so you can't push the shroud all the way down. Not a big deal...still clips in place the same.
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In the interest of keeping this thread going...

I decided to live dangerously again and ordered the Fichtel-Sachs clutch/fan blade combo. Much to my surprise, the clutch is actually made by Horton in Germany, which is the brand everyone says we want. So, hopefully this one will last more than 15K miles.

An additional note on the Nissens radiator. It fits almost perfectly, but there is a plastic tab on the upper passenger side that interferes and must be removed in order to get the radiator mounted flush. I carefully ground about half of it off with my dremel. Also, the top of the radiator sits slightly lower, so you can't push the shroud all the way down. Not a big deal...still clips in place the same.
Source & price for the Horton made clutch fan, please.

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Source & price for the Horton made clutch fan, please.

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AUTOHAUSAZ for $240. I suppose it is possible that F-S might use different manufacturers for the clutch units, but the one I got has Horton stamped on the back.

http://www.autohausaz.com/pn/2100024043
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AUTOHAUSAZ for $240. I suppose it is possible that F-S might use different manufacturers for the clutch units, but the one I got has Horton stamped on the back.

http://www.autohausaz.com/pn/2100024043
Thanks! Yeah, that's the thing;today made in Germany, next order comes made in Spain or Slovakia....lol

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Exactly. I just figured with so many reports of the MB clutches being made by Behr, I didn't want to spend the $400 or whatever they want only to get another 15,000 mile clutch. Wish it were easier to know exactly what you will get.
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I hate to say it, but I think this is only going to get worse before it gets better, if it ever gets better. For yrs many of us used parts.com and were always pleased with the OE products...once you figured out their shipping chargers.

Now...case in point are the Bosch dist caps;go to the dealer and pay between $300-$400 or order a Bosch cap made in Spain for $50. The $50 caps carbon track that much I've found out, but where is the $300-$400 cap made?

Same with the Bosch fuel pumps...country of origin.

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Now...case in point are the Bosch dist caps;go to the dealer and pay between $300-$400 or order a Bosch cap made in Spain for $50. The $50 caps carbon track that much I've found out, but where is the $300-$400 cap made?
New MB Dealer caps for m119's (I have seen m119 items purchased in the last month from MB) are Bosch made in Spain.

So I myself bought new Bosch made in Spain- which offer significant savings over the ultimate re-boxer.
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