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I am planning some DIY front end parts replacements. I have run into the "which brand to use" question.

I know Febi is Bilstien and is good (I think I know that) but I see Karlyn listed much less $ yet advertised as a German aftermarket. Then again Lemforder as well....and at much more, genuine Mercedes.

Ok is there a top to bottom/ Best to worst, list of manufactures amongst the group here? I do not want to save $25 and install crap, but do not want to spend on just a name either. Does the name vary from item to item? like; Febi is good for suspension, but Lemforder better for _____?

Name you preferences and suppliers, it would help a wanna be get a handle on parts procurement. Thanks ahead.

Also, from one of the suppliers pages I see this:

About Mercedes Benz 260E

The Mercedes Benz 260E was available as a sedan or as a wagon. It carried a 2.6 liter version of its predecessors straight six engine and had all the amenities indicative of a Mercedes Benz. The 260E was efficient and received a higher quality suspension system than the others, adding better handling capability as well as a lighter body due to exterior improvements. Many family oriented Mercedes enthusiasts chose the wagon version as it provided a high level of comfort and spaciousness for everyone in the vehicle.

I had never read this anywhere before, is there any truth to it?

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IIRC, the list from best to worse:
1.Genuine Mercedes (OEM)
2.Lemforder
3.Febi/Bilstein
4.Karlyn
5.ÜRO crap


Donno about the 260E article you read, but I suspect this isn't true, if it was true that 260E had different body and a lighter body, then it's price should be higher than other W124, (assuming same features)
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IIRC, the list from best to worse:
1.Genuine Mercedes (OEM)
2.Lemforder
3.Febi/Bilstein
4.Karlyn
5.ÜRO crap


Donno about the 260E article you read, but I suspect this isn't true, if it was true that 260E had different body and a lighter body, then it's price should be higher than other W124, (assuming same features)

Thanks on that, yes I smelled a rat on the 260E being somehow special, maybe lighter due to smaller engine? But it must be the same engine block as all 103's.
Where is Meyle in this mix?
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Febi-Bilstein has nothing to do with BILSTEIN suspension

They are a reboxer of cheap Chinese parts, just as bad as URO

They make nothing, they sell parts from whoever has the cheapest price.

Meyle
Febi
Uro

In that order for cheap questionable parts

Stick with OE or Lemfoerder, Bosch, KAE, Bremi, Beru

Autohaus AZ usually says when a part is genuine Mercedes or OEM
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When doing front end, don't skimp. If it's not at least Febi/Bilstein/Boge quality, don't get it. I thought I'd go cheap on my 300te and got Meyle motor mounts (granted, motor mounts aren't front end, but it's for comparison), as I thought I'd use the car as a beater. Got Boge for the 190e as I thought I'd baby that one more. Well, the 300te grew on me, and the difference in engine vibration is significant between the Boge and Meyle mounts. Can't tell the motor is running with Boge, but feel a little vibration with Meyle, so I'll be ordering some OEM mounts for the 300te soon, as I really enjoy driving it.

Using good parts in the front end is very important if you want to retain the good feel of your car.

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Didn't know that about Febi-Bilstein, so see above for minimum quality.
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I tend to prefer Lemfoerder and Sachs-Boge for chassis and suspension bits. Actually, Febi does build some of its own parts (even in Germany), or at least they have in the past. They have a rather checkered reputation nowadays, due to the aforementioned repackaging problems found so often in the industry. The real evil found in the Asian parts is in the rubber and plastics/pot metals they use; the former is prone to succumbing to UV breakdown and the latter to brittleness and fatigues. If you can afford it, I'd go with OE stuff from a dealer source.
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Actually, Febi does build some of its own parts (even in Germany), or at least they have in the past. They have a rather checkered reputation nowadays, due to the aforementioned repackaging problems found so often in the industry.

Everything I've seen the last 5 or 6 years from Febi is crap

And the boxes all say Febi-Bilstein Germany, not "made in Germany"

Then you open the box and there's a made in China decal on the part

Many aftermarket companies do this, all they need is to have the company
headquarters in Germany and they can add Germany to the name on packaging

Meyle does it to
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Everything I've seen the last 5 or 6 years from Febi is crap

And the boxes all say Febi-Bilstein Germany, not "made in Germany"

Then you open the box and there's a made in China decal on the part
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OR it might just say "Made in Unknown". Haven't found that country on Google Maps yet.
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I have NOS boxes here, that are stamped Febi right on the part. 103 serp belt tensioners and flex discs. No idea how old these are, but they're definitely made in Germany. Febi also makes or repackages their own Euro manufactured hydraulic fluid. Sadly, I've also heard that Lemfoerder has been known to market Asian made parts these days.
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I have NOS boxes here, that are stamped Febi right on the part. 103 serp belt tensioners and flex discs. No idea how old these are, but they're definitely made in Germany. Febi also makes or repackages their own Euro manufactured hydraulic fluid. Sadly, I've also heard that Lemfoerder has been known to market Asian made parts these days.
Those must be more then 5 years old. I remember back in the day
they did have some good parts.

The fluids are GTG

The transmission fluid is Fuchs, I'm not sure who does their hydraulic oil.

But it should say MB approved on the bottle, the 236.14 ATF does

They don't sell any Dexron VI though...... had to get that in...
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