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In currently almost finished with my swap. I ditched the gear box and swapped a rack and pinion from a w210 in, I was going to run a T56, which fits without modifying the trans tunnel, but switched directions since the 4L60E has a shorter first gear which will work better with the 2.65 rear gear im running. that's the only option for a factory lsd (450 sel 6.9 rear diff)
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do you have pictures of how you adapted the rack and pinion? i would be super interested!

how much space did you save? if this is a valid option, it might be a good way to go instead of the crazy routing of the exhaust on my v12 s123 build, lacks space for the downpipe from the turbo on the driveside, so need route that behind the engine and join the passengerside downpipe
(yes i do have space for that routing, yes it is darn f-ing tight)

a rack and pinion would be better if/when i decide to make it somewhat driftable to.
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btw, the w126 and the r107 and w116 also had LSD as an extra,
3.06 and 3.07 large house from 450se/sl/slc,
3.27 in the 380SE/SEC
2.47 in the 380SE/SEC and 2.24 in the 500SE...

have both 3.27 and 2.47 and the 2.65, but am looking for the 3.07 in a LSD version, gearratio wise, the 2.47 was a little to though on the gearbox with dieseltorque

althou those are superrare in the us, but know of people that has imported the 3.07 from Canada here to Sweden.

they might not be as hard to find as the elusive 6.9 differential, but im not shure.

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In currently almost finished with my swap. I ditched the gear box and swapped a rack and pinion from a w210 in, I was going to run a T56, which fits without modifying the trans tunnel, but switched directions since the 4L60E has a shorter first gear which will work better with the 2.65 rear gear im running. that's the only option for a factory lsd (450 sel 6.9 rear diff)
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do you have pictures of how you adapted the rack and pinion? i would be super interested!

how much space did you save? if this is a valid option, it might be a good way to go instead of the crazy routing of the exhaust on my v12 s123 build, lacks space for the downpipe from the turbo on the driveside, so need route that behind the engine and join the passengerside downpipe
(yes i do have space for that routing, yes it is darn f-ing tight)

a rack and pinion would be better if/when i decide to make it somewhat driftable to.
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btw, the w126 and the r107 and w116 also had LSD as an extra,
3.06 and 3.07 large house from 450se/sl/slc,
3.27 in the 380SE/SEC
2.47 in the 380SE/SEC and 2.24 in the 500SE...

have both 3.27 and 2.47 and the 2.65, but am looking for the 3.07 in a LSD version, gearratio wise, the 2.47 was a little to though on the gearbox with dieseltorque

althou those are superrare in the us, but know of people that has imported the 3.07 from Canada here to Sweden.

they might not be as hard to find as the elusive 6.9 differential, but im not shure.

I do have some pictures somewhere of the rack and pinion. It saved so much room! Enough that I'll go back eventually and make some custom long tube headers for it. Here in the states basically the only LSD that's a direct bolt in is the 6.9 diff. It would be awesome to see if I can get my hands on one of those 3.07 diffs! My boss has a good friend in Germany and he goes over there a few times a year. So maybe they can find one for me. The rack and pinion is definitely the way to go! Didn't take much to notch the cross member and install.
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Heh. Funny this thread should pop up...

Just last week I took the stroker out of Dad's 82 300SD. I have a 350 bored over to 360 going back in.

This is a quick pic I took to text to someone- I will get some more detailed ones after I clean it up.

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I do have some pictures somewhere of the rack and pinion. It saved so much room! Enough that I'll go back eventually and make some custom long tube headers for it.
i need those pictures! like for real,
the last resort was to remove the brakebooster, adapt a hydrobrake to another place/ofset so i have the "downpipe" of the turbo going to close to the IC (modded for different inlet) to be comfortable, and then behind engine, above swaybar and down with the left side.

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this is advanced shoehorning as is :P and i have been thinking about the w210 rack and pinion a lot.
what is the ratio of that steering btw? where you able to get a more aggresive steeringangle? (was it a lot of mods, and would it be a valid option for a "drifter"?

im not building a "driftcar", but would be nice to have the oportunity to do some wide laps, a better steeringangle in case of


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I do have some pictures somewhere of the rack and pinion. It saved so much room! Enough that I'll go back eventually and make some custom long tube headers for it.
i need those pictures! like for real,
the last resort was to remove the brakebooster, adapt a hydrobrake to another place/ofset so i have the "downpipe" of the turbo going to close to the IC (modded for different inlet) to be comfortable, and then behind engine, above swaybar and down with the left side.

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this is advanced shoehorning as is :P and i have been thinking about the w210 rack and pinion a lot.
what is the ratio of that steering btw? where you able to get a more aggresive steeringangle? (was it a lot of mods, and would it be a valid option for a "drifter"?

im not building a "driftcar", but would be nice to have the oportunity to do some wide laps, a better steeringangle in case of


Send me a pm with your email and I'll send you any pictures you need. I'm honestly not sure how the ratios compare. I didn't research them before hand. Because the w210 tandem pump was my best option for the rear suspension I just decided to go with the matching rack. I did have to get shorter outer tie rods. They were for a kia or something. Moog part number: MOG es3403. That v12 is crammed in there! Will be nasty as hell with those big turbos too!
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not using the turbo on the picture, going for smaler td04-19t something, wants to keep the stock "dieseltorque" 800nm from 1800rpm, and 1000nm from 2400rpm something. with two turbos i dont need to go hx40-hx50 in size :P

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Most common is Ford - smaller, more lightweight, easier to swap in.
question about your ford comment. So I have a C class and a build 4.6 for a big turbo cuz the mustang I built it for got wrecked. So you're telling me you think It's possible to girl put it in my C class? Or at least better fit then a LS ?
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I'm just curious has anybody ever thought of sticking one of those Cummings 2.8 diesels. Into one of these cars. Wouldn't even fit?
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Its a great idea, if you have a spare $13,000 to throw a vehicle.
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