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-FOUND- have you seen my Unimog??? (it's been stolen) -FOUND-

My Unimog has been stolen by a rouge transport subcontractor.

I went to Sydney to get my Unimog off him, but they have moved it to a new hiding spot before I go there.

Last seen at 45 Chifley St, Smithfield NSW - Saturday 18/05/2019
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If you have seen the Unimog please send me a pm or contact directly Fairfield Police station (02 9728 8399)

if you have twitter, facebook, anything - please share

any help appreciated

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Holy crap I hope you get it back!

Good luck man!
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Geez; related to the financial dispute and hopefully for you getting the authorities involved may expedite a happy ending. If the police are labelling it 'theft' that puts you in a better place vs being told that it's a civil matter where somebody is holding it pending payment for alleged monies owed from somebody else.

A stressful adventure for you for sure!
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Andre, if your laws are anything like ours, that's not theft- it's a civil matter.

Some (but not necessarily all) of the legal challenges that you may encounter when attempting to label it as "theft", would include the fact that you gave it to the shipper and gave them permission to have it- they didn't break into your garage and steal it. And in order to prove theft, you would have to prove that they intended to never give it back, which in actual practice, is virtually impossible to prove.

It would be like if you loaned your car to a friend, and they loaned it to another friend, and you were not able to get them to give you your car back- that's not theft.

I am sorry that you're having to go through this. You may need to contact an attorney. Do you have insurance on it?
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Andre, if your laws are anything like ours, that's not theft- it's a civil matter.

Some (but not necessarily all) of the legal challenges that you may encounter when attempting to label it as "theft", would include the fact that you gave it to the shipper and gave them permission to have it- they didn't break into your garage and steal it. And in order to prove theft, you would have to prove that they intended to never give it back, which in actual practice, is virtually impossible to prove.

It would be like if you loaned your car to a friend, and they loaned it to another friend, and you were not able to get them to give you your car back- that's not theft.

I am sorry that you're having to go through this. You may need to contact an attorney. Do you have insurance on it?
It is theft, police is onto it.

The reason it is theft and not a civil matter is: an individual working for the transport company removed the Unimog without the companies permission from their property and is hiding it. The Unimog's current location is only known to this individual.
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It is theft, police is onto it.

The reason it is theft and not a civil matter is: an individual working for the transport company removed the Unimog without the companies permission from their property and is hiding it. The Unimog's current location is only known to this individual.
Yup, that's theft.

And it's probably good news, in a way- if the employee stole the vehicle from the company, then the company is the victim of the theft, and the company no doubt has insurance, so you should be made whole, even if your vehicle is never recovered.

I wish you the best.
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Time to have "Vinnie and Dino" pay him a visit with a baseball bat (I guess cricket bat down there) A few "Dancing lessons" I'm sure it will loosen his tongue on where your truck is!

Well I hope all works out for you.
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Any insight as to why a rouge employee has your truck hostage? Are you caught in the middle of a pay dispute between the vendor you contracted and their sub?

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My Unimog has been stolen by a rouge transport subcontractor.

I went to Sydney to get my Unimog off him, but they have moved it to a new hiding spot before I go there.

Last seen at 45 Chifley St, Smithfield NSW - Saturday 18/05/2019
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If you have seen the Unimog please send me a pm or contact directly Fairfield Police station (02 9728 8399)

if you have twitter, facebook, anything - please share

any help appreciated

Kind Regards
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To be sure you are certainly the victim of a felony crime. In some places it is known as "theft by conversion". To put it simply when you give someone temporary permission to use you car but they never return it that is indeed a felony.


I do hope you get it back!

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To be sure you are certainly the victim of a felony crime.
If their laws are anything like the laws here in the U.S., the company he entrusted his vehicle to are the victims. The OP's involvement in this as the owner of the vehicle would be a civil matter in any place I've ever lived or worked. The difference here is important, because the company he entrusted his vehicle to has insurance, which means that he can be made whole again.

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In some places it is known as "theft by conversion".
It's not theft by conversion. The company he entrusted his vehicle to, has not converted his vehicle into funds for their use without his permission. His vehicle was stolen FROM the company he entrusted his vehicle to. HUGE difference.

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To put it simply when you give someone temporary permission to use you car but they never return it that is indeed a felony.
It's not a felony in any place I've ever lived or worked.

Please do not spread disinformation.
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