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Please Help: R129 Steering Lock + Ignition switch removal

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I am struggling to replace the steering lock mechanism for my car.
I took out the steering gauge and I am left with what you see in the image. That front red metal piece is blocking my way to a screw that I need to remove. The screw holds the steering lock in place.

I have searched the forums and don't find anything for this particular issue. Many people reference a guide that is on peachparts, but that does not address my issue.

Is it possible for me to reomve this red metal mout? I tried unscrewing the screws on it but it doesn't budge.
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I took out the steering gauge...
I do not know to what "steering gauge" refers, and I have done this job without loosening the bolts you have picture.
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I assume he's trying to remove the lock pin from the immobilizer after removing the bottom nut, but I don't know if it's the same setup on this early model.

If it's the pin, it just comes out the top. It's a lot harder to insert with just the driver's side knee bolster removed, but should be pretty easy with as much disassembled as his photos show.
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Steering gauge aka instrument cluster. There is no factory immobiliser on 1990 300SL.

Remove knee bolster to get to steering lock. You could also remove the steering wheel to provide better access.

The red bracket is part of chassis sheet metal AFAIK.
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I removed the steering lock from both a '98 and a '91 car last fall. It is a simple matter to remove the nut and pin that mahunt mentioned. As I recall it is a bit tricky to locate the pin to its hole upon re-installation, however.
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I removed the steering lock from both a '98 and a '91 car last fall. It is a simple matter to remove the nut and pin that mahunt mentioned. As I recall it is a bit tricky to locate the pin to its hole upon re-installation, however.
Did you access the steering lock nut from underneath or through the aperture for the cluster? My recollection is the former.
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Steering Lock mechanism successfully removed. New Issue

Thank you for the input guys. I managed to take out the steering lock mechanism. I now have a new problem, removing the sleeve. I've seen youtube videos on how to remove the sleeve, it involves sticking a thin wire through some holes on the periphery of the ignition switch front face. I have no such holes. Does anyone know how to remove the sleeve?
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My collar was smaller, but I wonder if it works like mine.

Put the key in and turn to either the number 1 or 2 position and try to rotate the black collar.

Mine's a 97, but it might be somewhat similar in execution. Do a search on my userid and ignition switch. It wasn't easy and I documented the process in case I ever needed to remove the tumbler again for some reason. It was pretty tricky and there is an alignment issue when reassembling that you should learn about BEFORE trying to put the parts back together.
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My collar was smaller, but I wonder if it works like mine.

Put the key in and turn to either the number 1 or 2 position and try to rotate the black collar.

Mine's a 97, but it might be somewhat similar in execution. Do a search on my userid and ignition switch. It wasn't easy and I documented the process in case I ever needed to remove the tumbler again for some reason. It was pretty tricky and there is an alignment issue when reassembling that you should learn about BEFORE trying to put the parts back together.
thanks for the speedy reply
I tried the search, the only post I found was: Bought A Theft Recovery SL600 - Help!
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Thank you for the input guys. I managed to take out the steering lock mechanism. I now have a new problem, removing the sleeve. I've seen youtube videos on how to remove the sleeve, it involves sticking a thin wire through some holes on the periphery of the ignition switch front face. I have no such holes. Does anyone know how to remove the sleeve?
You do have the hole. Itís hidden behind the black tamperproof cover. Once the cover snaps on the end of the sleeve, there is no taking it off again without MB special tool, or cutting it off. You can buy the black cover separately.
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