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Hard Top DIY: Panels, Headliner and Anatomy

Red devil project continues... Interior is now probably one of the best pre-face lift I've seen, and I'm very happy with the progress, very very tidy!!! Downfall is the hard top: Peeling vinyl from the side panels, and the typical sagging headliner. Time to re-do it all. I got a great deal on a full cow hide, and that is what I'm going to use on the panels, factory vinyl has shrunk beyond repair...

full_leather by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

I do have a spare roof, originally meant to go to a friend, but he sold his R129 and this roof is back in my garage. So while it's off the car, now is as good time as any to work on re-doing all the panels (then, I will swap all that into my roof), headliner and share the "anatomy" for any anyone who's planning on doing the same.

Fine Philips screws (10 total, x4 on the back panel, x3 at each side panel)

20190407_153743 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

Forward edge just pressure fitted to the roof at these 3 points

20190407_184504 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

At the rear edge, these 3 points...

20190407_184709 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

...slide into these metal clips

20190407_184603 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

The single golden clip fits into this opening of the plastic panel (arrow)

20190407_154830 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

Once the side panels removed, the rear lower trim can simply be lifted (held in place by the white tabs in the picture above - note, that most likely, they are no longer attached to the panel, glue just deteriorates over time)

On to the headliner... This particular roof is a first generation version, with no window drop. The main difference is the front rubber trim, not attached with the screws and wide metal panel, but instead, 5 pressure fitted clips:

20190407_185217 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

And closer view

20190407_185148 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

Then, entire rubber gasket is removed (note, carefully lift both corners from under the main seal)

"Ohh $hit" handles, move the trim ring upwards,

20190407_185041 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

Peel back the flap, remove the 8mm screws and remove the handles.

20190407_185057 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

Now, the headliner is ready to be removed by sliding it forward. More tomorrow (brittle mounting points repairs)...

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Little more progress, all the broken plastic pieces are fixed. R129's best friend (along with JB Weld epoxy):

20190407_181548 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

This stuff is amazing when it comes to sculpting things... Start with this

20190407_175636 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

First layer, mesh and another layer over the mesh afterwards

20190407_181810 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

Send down

20190408_175822 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

Sculpt the recessed opening for the screws

20190408_181039 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

Next the leather skin to work with...

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Nice work as always with your cars. You have this touch for these cars..

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Nice repair work duh_vinci,

For sculpting repairs, to match the finished texture of any surface, leather and even dashboards, Ive used a mohawk finishing grain mold compound to duplicate the finished surface.
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Nice work as always with your cars. You have this touch for these cars..

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Cheers Martin! Labor or love, you know it! Next project - carbon fiber trim to replace the wood, looked up your old thread, needed a little more inspiration, got what I needed from looking at your work! And got the "oddest" carbon fiber I could find imo, will not be "approved" by many, but I think it will look badasssss... Soon!

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Nice repair work duh_vinci,

For sculpting repairs, to match the finished texture of any surface, leather and even dashboards, Ive used a mohawk finishing grain mold compound to duplicate the finished surface.
Cheers, and indeed great stuff! Perfect for those delicate, visible surfaces to be restored. Fortunately, these panels are only textured to hold the glue in place, so less work for me!

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All done, at last!

Corners and indentations on these panels, the multidimensional shapes ended up bit more challenging than I anticipated, one must appreciate the quality of lifetime craftsman doing this type of work for fine automobiles... You have to be able to feel and know the leather, kinda like metal work... Not easy by any means, but very very rewarding!

20190408_183846 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

Original color of leather was blue black, imperfect coloring, hence $50 for full hide.

20190408_203442 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

Dyed in black to match the rest of the interior

20190413_174200 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

20190413_174351 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr

20190413_185511 by Duh_Vinci, on Flickr


I like the texture, perfect deep black matching color. Very happy with results overall!


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While the car is in the body shop getting new paint, mind as well finish the headliner. Another one for the books (this one is #4 for R129) - synthetic "alcantara"





This summer need to take care of my W202, it finally sagged... Will start after finishing this car.

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While the car is in the body shop getting new paint, mind as well finish the headliner. Another one for the books (this one is #4 for R129) - synthetic "alcantara"]
Are you painting the entire car. Are you changing color?

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Are you painting the entire car. Are you changing color?
Yes Sir, full respray, including the spoiler, front and rear aprons and the hard top. Keeping the factory color, I don't see many red R129 cars anymore, and the ones I see all clear is peeling...








Should have it back home next week and looking factory new

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Yes Sir, full respray, including the spoiler, front and rear aprons and the hard top. Keeping the factory color, I don't see many red R129 cars anymore, and the ones I see all clear is peeling...D


I'm guessing you striped is yourself?

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