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About 4 weeks ago I decided to update my R129's a 99 SL600 and 98 SL500. I had both windshields replaced and am having the hoods, front fenders and bumpers repainted due to road chips, So I got the SL600 painted first when I picked it up yesterday the headliner was down, I guess this was due to the heat lamps baking the paint so off to the upholstery shop for a new headliner he put a suede liner on and its beautiful, So the 98 SL500 is at the paint shop now and I bet when it pick it up it's gonna need a new headliner too, After 20 years I guess they will fall off anyway

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Little "extra" heat is all it takes. My W202 came down in 1 day last week with no prior warning signs. Look on the bright side, new headliner! Suede material does look and feel good in R129!

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I noticed that about my car too. Actually everything always seemed fine until I rolled down the windows at 70 mph - then I could see it flopping up and down. So I will be combing the archives here for a "how too". My headliner is fine - just not secured to the roof.
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I noticed that about my car too. Actually everything always seemed fine until I rolled down the windows at 70 mph - then I could see it flopping up and down. So I will be combing the archives here for a "how too". My headliner is fine - just not secured to the roof.
This can be a hard job to attach the headliner cause the foam between the roof and headliner is probably deteriorated, there is nothing to glue to and it will fall in a few days.

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This can be a hard job to attach the headliner cause the foam between the roof and headliner is probably deteriorated, there is nothing to glue to and it will fall in a few days.
That's what I was afraid of. Funny thing is with the windows up (99% of the time) you wouldn't think there was a problem. So the question is can I live with it? ;-)
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...So the question is can I live with it? ;-)
Come on, really?

On R129 hardtop, it is very easy and straight forward job that takes very little time to do. Results = rewarding! Now, on W202 that's going to be a bear!!!

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Come on, really?

On R129 hardtop, it is very easy and straight forward job that takes very little time to do. Results = rewarding! Now, on W202 that's going to be a bear!!!

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I'm working on finding threads here. I really don't like things on my cars that aren't as they should be. And, the car has 2 tops :-) Is this foam a factory part? Sounds a bit like installing a hood pad.
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I'm working on finding threads here. I really don't like things on my cars that aren't as they should be. And, the car has 2 tops :-) Is this foam a factory part? Sounds a bit like installing a hood pad.
The deteriorated foam is a part of the factory installed material, "foam backed headliner" and you will not be able to re-install or re-glue factory hanging vinyl back (not if you want it to look smooth) The foam under neath of the liner has become a sticky goo, and nothing will stick well to the factory vinyl again.

The Suede or suede look like or Synthetic Alcantara foam backed headliner material is widely available. I think it s a great alternative to the factory vinyl. Feels great, looks great. Definitely a very doable at home in few hours.

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The deteriorated foam is a part of the factory installed material, "foam backed headliner" and you will not be able to re-install or re-glue factory hanging vinyl back (not if you want it to look smooth) The foam under neath of the liner has become a sticky goo, and nothing will stick well to the factory vinyl again.

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I paid $250.00 to get mine done in suede it's worth every penny not to have that gooey mess on every thing in the shop
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I paid $250.00 to get mine done in suede it's worth every penny not to have that gooey mess on every thing in the shop
John, that is a great price for "all inclusive" work. We don't get these prices in my neck of the woods. First time I got a quote, $420, for a little piece like this, I decided to learn how to do these myself. Done 3 so far...





About to do number 4 on the friend's 1994 SL500, but not only the roof, all the side trim pieces inside the hard top too.

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