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One needs to remove the whole door panel for the later models too - it's no big deal.
I'm sure I just needed to remove the grille on my 2000 to replace the large speaker (an Alpine) on mine.

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Thanks to all for the info regarding door panel.

Also, confirming through Patty at 508-766-9522 that Bose is again using the 171800 part number for the larger Bose door speaker. -Tim
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Thanks to all for the info regarding door panel.

Also, confirming through Patty at 508-766-9522 that Bose is again using the 171800 part number for the larger Bose door speaker. -Tim
Hi Tim
Did you replace your small speakers also? If so, were they part number 133619 as listed earlier in this thread? Did you replace the amp? My SL600 is a 97 as well so hoping to piggyback on your experience.
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One thing that happens with these when they get wet is the cone deforms some and causes voice coil rub. That was the condition I found them in when I purchased by SL500 two years ago. I purchased the proper foam surrounds from eBay and re-foamed them both, while re-centering the coil. I also painted two or three coats of mod podge onto the outer surface of the cone (I suspect the water comes down the front of the driver and accumulates on the foam edge lip where it meets the cone). This I did to provide some protection from future water intrusion, though the car is now kept in the garage, so it should never wet again. One of the repairs--the more badly deformed cone--did not take and the distinctive crackle of voice coil rub returned rather quickly. I tossed that one and bought another used one which I also coated and the two have been in the vehicle for two years now and have worked fine since.
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Did you replace your small speakers also? If so, were they part number 133619 as listed earlier in this thread? Did you replace the amp? My SL600 is a 97 as well so hoping to piggyback on your experience.
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I did not replace the small speakers, nor the amp. The original problem was that the main door speakers sounded distorted, which was worse at low volume. Also, the screen on the old head unit was black, so the first thing we did was to replace the head unit.

We were delighted to find that with the Blaupunkt 420BT in place, the door speakers (etc.) sound great, so we have not even bothered, yet, to install the new (large) door speakers.

More regarding the antenna, later.
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Did you replace the amp? My SL600 is a 97 as well so hoping to piggyback on your experience.
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If you're looking for instructions on removing the rear amp, download TopHydraulics' instructions for removing the soft top left main piston. They're great for removing the interior trim (ignore the piston parts). And it'll say something like, remove the rear amp if necessary. So at that point, pull the amp. It's a few self-evident bolts. Oh, and the units are glued in or some such. I had to use a crowbar on mine the first time I removed it.

http://www.tophydraulicsinc.com/R129...%20Removal.pdf
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... I purchased the proper foam surrounds from eBay and re-foamed them both, while re-centering the coil. I also painted two or three coats of mod podge onto the outer surface of the cone (I suspect the water comes down the front of the driver and accumulates on the foam edge lip where it meets the cone). This I did to provide some protection from future water intrusion, though the car is now kept in the garage, so it should never wet again...
What was your criteria for searching or finding the proper foam surround? How did you know you had the proper one?

Also, wouldn't coating a speaker cone with Mod Podge would alter the tonal response characteristics of the speaker? And even then, there may be (e.g., acrylic ) products that provide better water protection. E.g., I read on the Amazon Q&A that "If saturated with water Mod Podge will turn cloudy and peel off." http://www.amazon.com/Podge-CS11302-Original-16-Ounce-Finish/dp/B001IKES5O
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The surround is a standard 6" cloth surround with an angled lip, you can confirm that it will fit measuring the cone diameter and comparing to the "inside roll diameter." I got mine from speakerguy2002 on eBay, link below. The mod podge is what I had on hand, there are probably better ways to moisture protect the cone.

Pair 6" Cloth Surrounds for Speaker Repair | eBay

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Inside Diameter - 4 5/16"
Inside Roll Diameter - 4 3/4"
Outside Roll Diameter - 5 5/8"
Overall Diapmeter - 6 1/4"
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There is an exterior grade mod podge which is reported to work well and be water resistant, but not waterproof. You can also use "outdoor acrylic sealer," folk art makes a product for outdoor crafting.
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Dimensions:

Inside Diameter - 4 5/16"
Inside Roll Diameter - 4 3/4"
Outside Roll Diameter - 5 5/8"
Overall Diapmeter - 6 1/4"
Angle Attach

There is an exterior grade mod podge which is reported to work well and be water resistant, but not waterproof. You can also use "outdoor acrylic sealer," folk art makes a product for outdoor crafting.
Good info, thanks!
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Just spoke to Patty and ordered my speakers.
2 X part 171800 @ $60 each (larger door speaker)
2 X part 133620 @ $40 each (door tweeter)
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