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Luxury Coupe Showdown (1988)

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Popular Science: April 1988 -- Luxury Coupes: $24,000 a seat.

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"Two luxury sport coupes from General Motors, the brand-new Buick Reatta and the Cadillac Allanté, challenge Mercedes most expensive convertible in a rarefied exercise in luxury motoring. Where does the money go in engineering two-passenger vehicles with such seemingly exorbitant price-tags?"
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I just read the final comments, and was honestly surprised to read that the writers preferred a car essentially designed about 18 years earlier (and with big bumpers).

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I just read the final comments, and was honestly surprised to read that the writers preferred a car essentially designed about 18 years earlier (and with big bumpers).
Maybe you should read the entire article. It was a road test...pretty sure they didn't give a shit about bumpers...
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I stopped reading when I saw it was a 560SL. The 560SL is not a Coupe even with the hardtop on.
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Actually a worthwhile nostalgiac read. Wonder how it might have read if written the following year when the Allante got the Northstar engine. Before acquiring my 107 I looked pretty hard at the Allante, however I was eventually put off by a GM mechanic who told me they shuddered every time one came into the shop for work. Apparently they were real pigs to work on, although they are still a neat looking car. The Reatta deserved the Grand National intercooled turbo - that would have made it a real screamer.
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Before acquiring my 107 I looked pretty hard at the Allante, however I was eventually put off by a GM mechanic who told me they shuddered every time one came into the shop for work.
Can't say I looked hard at it but it was on the list. I nixed it for the same reasons you did...
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I stopped reading when I saw it was a 560SL. The 560SL is not a Coupe even with the hardtop on.
By that standard, neither is the Allante.

And considering the Northstar's problems with keeping head gaskets/head studs in them...not sure that would have been an improvement.

"Engineered like no other car in the world." That's both a bug and a feature.
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By that standard, neither is the Allante.
Okay. The article has one coupe. The Reatta is the winner.
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My brother in law wanted a convertible and his dad had owned an Allante. I believe Cadillac at the time was claiming to hold its value as well as a Mercedes at that time. Apparently Cadillac had to write my father in law a check for the difference in depreciation between a Mercedes and the allante when he traded it in (or something like that).

When my brother in law had asked me to look at buying an old convertible for him, I think his wife was a little smitten with my red 280sl 5-speed. He had decided to buy an old convertible, but has not time or mechanical proficiency. I knew I’d be helping with maintenance as needed. At his request, I looked a little bit at the allante and the electronic cockpit filled with the GM buttons (that I recall being problematic on my dad’s Oldsmobile’s even when new) made me cringe. It appeared that the a big part of the nostalgia for these vehicles is the space invaders electronics themselves, much of which didn’t seem to work on the examples for sale. I can’t imagine that spares are available for this kind of stuff. Even writing about now it makes me sad and my stomach turns.

He liked my 1992 500sl that I bought for somewhere between $2000 and $2500, and immediately sold the panoramic hardtop for $1500. It has over 150k miles and seemed to repeatedly have issues with the sideways rotors on the front of the camshafts and the temp sensor read hot. Even though I fixed the top hydraulics, I couldn’t in good conscious sell it to him. I found a 52,000 mile 1998 sl500 3 miles from his house for $10,000 that I paid for a dealer PPI on, and in exchange, he gave me the extra set of 18” AMG wheels that came with the car. Sometimes I worry that it wast the Classic he wanted, still not eligible for antique tags. But I think it does have the creature comforts more in line with an allante, AND it is fast, AND it has good climate control. I doubt I’d be able to say all that about a 560sl. But this article sure makes me feel good to see that even the older 560sl crushes an allante when it was brand new. I think our MB are much more likely to be “like new” electrically and mechanically than any Allante ever will be again.

So...
Thanks for posting this article!


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