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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 05-22-2019, 06:53 AM Thread Starter
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Pondering upon foglights

If I got to meet the original designers at Mercedes (in the mid 60ies) and if I were only permitted one question regarding the design of the R107 - I would ask about the foglights.

There is something about them that screams "afterthought"(!). They stick out as two extra and protruding teeth and do not fit into the overall design.

I have always believed the fog lights being an afterthought. Tzee German guys sagt zu themselves - Wir haben tze fog lichts vergessen... Lets put tzem there und pretend it was planned.

When studying early pictures from the design studio there are no foglights...

Did some quick and dirty mods in paint.

1 Original fog lights
2 Without - as in the early design studies.
3 Or if they had been incorporated properly from the beginning - integrated in the front grille.

Without - being the prefered by me, integrated second and original... well - it is original but clearly an afterthought - design-wise.
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Interesting supposition Sindbad. The fog lights didn't really have anywhere else to go and don't look too bad - compared with the turn signal lights on US cars that is. They really do look like after thoughts. My 280 SL was Americanised when I bought it and although I replaced the twin headlights with the original Euros I never actually did anything about rewiring the turn signals into their original position. I have it in mind to do so this year and turn those "horrible"US type turn signals into daylight running lights with a low wattage LED source. Either that or get rid of them entirely and put a couple of after market lights behind the grille. Haven't yet decided which way to go.
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I like them!

I like the foglights. I think they visually balance out the front end. Almost weighs it down a little if you get what I mean. Especially with the pre-560 cars that don't have the front spoiler.

And the lights were also "of the time". So many European cars had a similar setup.

I've seen some guys take them off and put LED strips and other more modern lights on but it doesn't look right.

At least on the true ROW cars, Mercedes put that little trim piece between the light and the bumper. That gives them a little bit of a finished look.

Now if you want to talk about the US turn signal squares... those were true after-thoughts!
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One option is to "tint" the clear lenses yellow...IMO gives a whole new look. Here's a how to from a few years ago..

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I too like the fog lights. US '72-'73 models had the same trim piece.

I call those '74 up front turn signals electrical boxes. The housing looks like a modified electrical outlet/switch box. The '72-'73 US front tun signals look pretty good. Those are commonly called cats eyes, tear drop or banana. They are kind of recessed in the lower grill.
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I also like the look of the fog lights. It just looks right for the period. Everyone was tacking on fog lights and driving lights to the front it just kind of became part of the style.

You could go even bigger and it would still look good:

Agreed though about the 75+ Turn signal "Electrical Boxes". Originality be damned, throw those out and upgrade to 72, euro lights, or even some low profile flush mount lights like these:
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