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post #1 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-28-2018, 05:08 PM Thread Starter
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Hello all, attached are pics of my 280 slc, believed 73, who, the hope is, will gain from the loss of heart from my m113 r170 swap... the idea for this car is: v8 swap, do something the snobs will not like. Oh, and I work for Mercedes-Benz Classic, representing them at car shows, so my car will get seen by plenty of people, under the merc banner
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post #2 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-28-2018, 05:12 PM Thread Starter
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I know what you're thinking, she's mint, right? Believe it or not, shes all there, boot bonnet and doors have been rust repaired, roof, wings, sills, floors and engine bay are all rust free save for surface rust.
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OK so whats the plan. Are you going to put the M113 in or not. Where are you in Ireland. I might be there next year. Wife is from County Meath.

Good luck.
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post #4 of 61 (permalink) Old 12-28-2018, 07:23 PM
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Transplant OM629 (my wet dream), M112 E36, or plain ye olde 280 with Megasqirt and distributorless ignition. Colour it white.
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The plan is... Spend a shit load of money and then complain that the 107 has no value. Put all the parts in a shed and sell them as the value increases. The world doesn't need another restored 107. The parts will be more valuable than the sum. Pluse. Every 107 scrapped increases the value of mine.
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As I'm not too sure how this multi-quote thing works, I will attempt to address all of your queries now my own way...
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"Spend a shit load of money and then complain that the 107 has no value. Put all the parts in a shed and sell them as the value increases. The world doesn't need another restored 107. The parts will be more valuable than the sum. *Please. Every 107 scrapped increases the value of mine." Fk spending money (needlessly, that is) my slc was as cheap as they get, believe me. Also, I have no shed, so that rules that out, the parts on it as they stand are worth very little monetary value but have enormous sentimental value to me - my father has a drop dead gorgeous completely original 74 350sl. As we are both regional officers for the mercedes benz club, I have to park whatever I have next to his stunning minter of a car at every car show in our region, so rather than being forever outclassed by his car in that sense, I'll go my own way and who said anything about restoring it? What I intend on doing diverges somewhat from that - but thank you for your suggestion nonetheless.
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"OM629 (my wet dream), M112 E36, or plain ye olde 280 with Megasquirt and distributor-less ignition. Colour it white.
No task is big (or small), only lack of resources, absence of desire, or both"
Firstly, white is not my colour in cars, enough said about that. your final statement is very very true. Unfortunately someone in my region already has a diesel transplanted 107, so that rules that out... plus engines like the OM629 cost at least 5 times what I will spend on my whole project, mods, purchase price and all Thank you for sharing your opinion/ sexual fantasies with the forum, though! I suppose if you can't do that on the internet, where can you do it??
Spend money?! Certainly not... that rules out OM629, M112 E36, and tbh *naturally aspirated* mods to a 280 seem like a waste of time and money when I have a m113 5 litre with tranny and complete wiring loom, ecus etc. already... The Megasquirt and distributor-less ignition I am seriously considering though, as the merc setup I have is "less than ideal" with regards replacement modules, transponders etc. I'd nearly prefer to write my own code and use my own ecu... I have no real intention of a respray or interior save for 2 front seats atm...
So... Plan is... fit a 4.5 out of another 107 meanwhile (I got it as part of the deal - only issue is it's electric injection and minus an engine loom) and get it to a rolling project stage, then drive to shows during the summer, and save some money for the megasquirt gear (bit strapped for cash atm).
My plan is a fairly loose one atm, and I would like to hear positive, encouraging suggestions, either that or 'troll'-y, downright sarcastic or totally impractical-but-remotely possible and hilarious ones only, please

My constants:
1) the 107 chassis,
2) a readily available, relatively cheap and high output Mercedes v8 - I already have the 5.0 litre m113 so that seems a no-brainer,
3) heavy modifications with
4) very little **conventional** regard for outward appearance, save for not destroying the beautiful shape of the car. Function comes first, the best solution is simple and operationally elegant imo... This (on the exterior of the car) probably taking a rat-look approach, but by my own definition, so all new bushes hoses etc. underneath, but upgraded only where truly a performance gain (e.g. I learned previously poly bushes are not suitable everywhere as they do not possess the necessary mechanical properties for some applications) and with underneath and engine bay freshly painted and spotless. Also, nice wheels, same size as the doner car, of course.
5) preferably not too similar to something everybody else has, hence
6) Disruptive camouflage paint job (see attached pics)

My variables:
1) the m113 - I will price up all the bits, and depending what I can scavenge along the way, I could be tempted to fit a sizeable nitrous kit to the 4.5 I am promised with the purchase of the 107. I see this needing an aftermarket ecu either way though, so more research needed here. Also, as for the m113, everything can change, however it is my *first* choice for transplant.
2) electronic control of the automatic transmission
3) widely held and otherwise traditional views of what is acceptable to do to: a car, a classic, and most importantly a Mercedes
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Is there a link towards that chap that has a diesel 107 transplant?

OM629 is different as it has +700Nm (oh, and +230kW)
Line up a few of these in the same direction and they could stop the Earth spinning.

I am yet to see a white SLC...
but youir colour combo as pr attached woiuld be interesting
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If you elect to install M117.982 (D-Jet) as was original in 1973, I can help. I have lots of salvage spares on hand for that engine.

The M113 would be interesting - subscribed either way. Best of luck in your restoration.

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Is there a link towards that chap that has a diesel 107 transplant?
I think I have a photo of it somewhere, he bought it built already from a retired engineer who promptly died upon completion of the project. He didn’t really know much about the technical bits. It was the 3 liter turbo diesel (?) same as in a model year 2000 iSH, really not sure though. If I ever see him again I’ll photograph the sht out of it for you. It was immaculately executes. Looked like it came from the factory. Another member in my region has the same engine in a 190e

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If you elect to install M117.982 (D-Jet) as was original in 1973, I can help. I have lots of salvage spares on hand for that engine.
Thanks very much for the offer, I’ll keep that in mind 🙂

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The M113 would be interesting - subscribed either way. Best of luck in your restoration.[/QUOTE]
And thanks very much for the vote of confidence 👍
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Restoring a car that far gone, unless its expected value when finished exceeds $100K is a money losing proposition. Can this be done? Absolutely. Should this be done? Absolutely not.

If you want R107, buy the best example you can find, and then spend the remaining 90% of your restoration budget on something else.
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