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Restoring a car that far gone, unless its expected value when finished exceeds $100K is a money losing proposition. Can this be done? Absolutely. Should this be done? Absolutely not.

If you want R107, buy the best example you can find, and then spend the remaining 90% of your restoration budget on something else.
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Can this be done? Absolutely. Should this be done? Absolutely not.
Why not? Men are aloud to have a hobby no? May a hobby cost money? I would say yes...
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This is Derek's R107 Diesel, there are a few pics here of his car on the forum showing its fantastic full leather interior. His death was very sudden and unexpected and there was a very big Mercedes enthusiast turn out at his funeral. Anyway his car was sold on by his estate.

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Restoring a car that far gone, unless its expected value when finished exceeds $100K is a money losing proposition. Can this be done? Absolutely. Should this be done? Absolutely not.

If you want R107, buy the best example you can find, and then spend the remaining 90% of your restoration budget on something else.
A restoration of a car like this would never happen here in the US. But I have seen many examples of such resurrections in Europe. It is true that the restoration will far exceed the cost of the engine swap.

But there are also other possibilities here, which I have considered here in the states. Use this chassis to develop the engine installation then transfer all the parts to more suitable chassis. If I had this chassis right now an M113 engine would be sitting under the hood. I actually purchased a car like this when I was considering an electric 107.
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If you want to restore a car, a much better investment would be SL 230 (W113), as you will end up with $50K+ car when you are done as opposed to $15K car.
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If you want to restore a car, a much better investment would be SL 230 (W113), as you will end up with $50K+ car when you are done as opposed to $15K car.
Yes but you have to have the W113 to restore the W113 and then your left with a car that looks good is worth so much money that you don't dare drive it. And when you do drive it you realize that it drives like crap and wont get out of its own way.
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How many hours do you think you will have to put into it to get it the way you want?

Are you a skilled mechanic and body guy or have experience with this kind of project?

I completely underestimated what it would take to do mine due to having no skills and no experience, in my head I thought about a year of part time work (evenings and weekends). I have now done a year part time and close to a year full time (say 70% full time) and I still have a fair bit of painting to do, so a massive number of hours. That's fine for me as my time is free and its my hobby and I have no deadline, however if you need to pay anyone to do the work then you are looking at sinking a lot of dollars.

Mine cost 4500 on ebay in 2010, I started its main restoration 2 years ago, I think I have spent about 5k in parts etc on it (not sure what I have actually spent yet as all receipts are in a box, could be 10k).

Now here is a reality check, this is what the car looked like before I started the work.





For many, sinking 2000 hours into a car project which will offer no financial return would be madness, but for me its just fun.


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People climb the Mt Everest or go to the North Pole, which are *financially* some of the most stupid things to do. Edmund Percival Hillary made nothing but a huge, pure *financial* loss by being the first on record to reach the peak of the Sagarmatha at 8848m (ice included) in 1952ish.

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Some time before 1999 I parked my excellent condition and good running 1983 380sl for what I thought would be a few weeks at most while I figured out how to remove an ignition switch that wouldn't turn (I knew nothing). As life intervened, those few weeks became 20 years.

Nearly 2 years ago (March 2017) I finally got around to working on the ignition switch removal, and boy was I in for a shock. No need to go into detail but suffice it to say it may be the unfortunate reality that few parts, be they mechanical, electrical or structural, in that wreck I saw at the beginning of this thread will have survived and be either usable or recoverable.

If you enjoy working on hopeless causes for the sheer exhilaration of doing so I applaud your zest for adventure, but must you start with such a hopeless cause? Can't you find one that at least has a chance of being worth the effort?

To this day it remains that reaching the summit of Mt. Everest is the crowning achievement of mountain climbing adventurers world-wide (few make it) and I'd estimate the odds of bringing that Mercedes back to useful life at only a little better. However, should you decide to go forward with this restoration project, you can count on the support of virtually every member of this august forum.

Good luck.

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Go for it!!!!!!!!! Everybody needs a project to play with.
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