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Those are D.O.T. approved tail lights. Normal North American lights.
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Ok thanks.
Thinking this project is over my head.

Now for a tacky question...what do you guys think something like is this worth?
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We have discussed it many times, but for the record, many 107 044s delivered in 72 in North America were badged as 350SLs. My 72 was built in April 72, I believe. 350SL badge and all original books are 350SL. 4.5L engine and essentially same as 73 450SL.


Agreed. All my manuals and paperwork say 350sl but mine is badged as a 450sl. I have heard that some US dealers rebadged the early NAs with 450 badges from Germany, which I believe to be true with mine. 107.044.12.000422, built in 9/71.

In any case, the vin doesn't lie. 044 is a NA model.


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Ok thanks.
Thinking this project is over my head.

Now for a tacky question...what do you guys think something like is this worth?


Just my opinion but unless you can tackle the rust you've described yourself, you're probably better off taking the money you would have paid a shop for that plus the part-out value of the euro parts (and others) and then buy a cleaner car. Don't forget the steering wheel. Is it a Nardi?


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Ok thanks.
Thinking this project is over my head.

Now for a tacky question...what do you guys think something like is this worth?
The best parts on this car are:
- Euro Headlights
- Euro Bumpers
- Nardi Steering Wheel
- Wheels

Great condition of parts is everything.

Not long ago I purchased sight unseen a 1981 380SL with just Euro Headlights for $1,000. I intended to make it in to a "driver" but there was too much rust and damaged parts. So, I stripped the parts I wanted and got rid of it. It was a great experience learning about these R107s.

I would think your car is worth somewhere around $1,500 to $2,500 as a parts car. Just my opinion.

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I would think your car is worth somewhere around $1,500 to $2,500 as a parts car. Just my opinion.
Way more than $1500-2500 IMO.

Not sure what the market value of Euro bumpers for 107's are, but I would say a nice pair is easily $1000. Euro lights another $1000 and then the bodykit (which look AMG to me based on the location of stamps) would also bring $1000 for the set easily. These are minimum numbers, too. Everything else can still be parted out for more (front turn signals, grille, engine parts, interior bits, etc).

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Not sure what the market value of Euro bumpers for 107's are, but I would say a nice pair is easily $1000. Euro lights another $1000 and then the bodykit (which look AMG to me based on the location of stamps) would also bring $1000 for the set easily. These are minimum numbers, too. Everything else can still be parted out for more (front turn signals, grille, engine parts, interior bits, etc).


Those are the numbers hed get if he can do a good job parting out and selling the parts. People who store parts cars and put their time and labor into parting and selling parts would probably pay closer to that original $1500-2500 IMO. (If that. Not many 107 parts cars ever fetch more than $2000.)


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Fonzi, looking at eBay prices and what has sold, I think the numbers I gave are very conservative estimates. I don't think he'll have a hard time selling the parts if he puts together some pictures and lists them. $1500-2500 IMO is way low of an estimate as a parts car. But hey, its just my opinion.

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Unless it is your hobby, factoring in the time it takes to remove, clean up, prepare parts for re-sale and then dispose of what is left could make selling car in bits less attractive. Some, (like Fonzi?) enjoy this kind of thing.

That car looked kind of rough. Are those euro bumpers rust free? Can't really tell until they are removed. The djet parts could bring in some $$$. But they would need to be tested on a working engine and be sold in working condition to command higher prices.

But what do I know - Not into that sort of thing anyway. Fonzi is the expert


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Looks to me that this is a car that got the Miami Vice treatment in 1985ish. The headlights traded out, ground effects and a complete repaint with acrylic enamel (possibly single stage, not base/clear). Although some parts (such as bumpers and headlights) can be worth a premium, I can see that the rear bumper impact strip is dented in below the license plate and the left headlight upper aluminum molding is wavy (usually indicating it is dented), the cracked and crinkled paint on the left side of the trunk lid and radiator support surrounding the info plates and decals suggest multiple (and old) repaints. As well as possible perforated rust.

I own several 1970s-80s Mercedes-Benz cars that appear much like this one: they have nice Euro parts, and have been sitting outside for years. What I have observed is that quite often the headlight glass lenses are cracked, the chrome reflector plates are rusted, the bumpers have perforated rust coming through from the back side, and the fiberglass ground effects are old-cracked up items, regardless of "provenance".

The value question becomes not a matter of the general "what are the parts worth", but rather "what are the parts worth in their current condition"? The $500 headlight that needs $600 worth of parts, labor and shipping to get to that level is worth how much? I think anything above $1500-2500 is in the "dollar for dollar" category; for every increase in dollar value you will spend a dollar to achiever it. That includes your own time as a labor cost as well as: remove part, clean part, advertising, packaging for shipping, freight, and the time it takes to monetize the investment. Salvage yards figure 2 years to achieve full investment return.
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