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Theirs a new one coming

Just cleaned up a truck load full of parts that I got for my latest project.

The man cave is now up and running and its time to finish Samson and get started on a new project.

The plan is to build components that will refine Samson to a factory like build while making completely new revised 3D models for future fabrication. Alot needs to be done and in the process I believe Samson will be repainted.

First on the list is to address the limited slip differential. Then
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All parts will be fabricated in two's. One set for Samson One for a future project.

stay tuned.
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It'll certainly be interesting to see where this goes. Refining and finishing Samson seems ambitious enough, but one can't help but be curious about this second set of fabricated parts for a "future project".

Is that future project the one referred to in the title as the "new one coming"? Keeping secrets??

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Well I haven't been sitting on my ass with this but this took a long time. First time I did 3D modeling with surfaces. This was a real PIA. Trying to get the model to develop a formed plate that would unfold flat was just something I haven't done before.

Well after about 3 weekend here is the top plate required to install onto the 107 subframe.

Also shown is a picture of the one from Samson.
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I wish I had your fabrication skills, determination, and facilities. Curious, what are you up to ???

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This weeks work involved getting the drive shaft ready to ship. Front drive shaft needs to be shortened ~ 3/4" to allow room for the 722.6 5 speed transmission. So one drive shaft has been fully disassembled ready to ship. You can see my related post on Diveshaft Overhaul.

While that's going on I will be preparing a differential to be installed with the required 2.65 gears and limited slip. That will require some time as I will need to make tools to do the job.
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John, who is on your operating table? Delilah? Or a new patient?

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John, who is on your operating table? Delilah? Or a new patient?
My guess...
Since it's no fun looking at a carcass, an he's learned last time around that the fabrication is the majority of the work, not the installation, he will find the recipient vehicle later. I think he is prepping all the critical parts first I think.


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This weeks work involved getting the drive shaft ready to ship. Front drive shaft needs to be shortened ~ 3/4" to allow room for the 722.6 5 speed transmission. So one drive shaft has been fully disassembled ready to ship. You can see my related post on Diveshaft Overhaul.

While that's going on I will be preparing a differential to be installed with the required 2.65 gears and limited slip. That will require some time as I will need to make tools to do the job.
What vehicles can provide a 2.65 limited slip differential? I think maybe a 1980 450sl has a 2.65, but I don't know how to find one with a limited slip.

Or are you making a 2.65 into a limited slip somehow? Is that where the mention of making tools comes from?



Speaking of differentials... Are you building this one with the earlier subframe? Or a Gen2? I've been looking at the possibility of putting a gen2 LSD (with whole gen2 subframe) into one of my Gen1 cars, and it looks like only the diff mount could be an issue. Maybe there's more that I'm unaware of.

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John, who is on your operating table? Delilah? Or a new patient?
All these parts will eventually end up in Samson. But everything that needs to be cut and modified I have two of. I also have an M113 engine and 766.6 trans. so who knows. Maybe it will go into your car.
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Since it's no fun looking at a carcass, an he's learned last time around that the fabrication is the majority of the work, not the installation, he will find the recipient vehicle later. I think he is prepping all the critical parts first I think.
Pretty much about right. I'm building productionized versions of these parts. These parts will be build able from a print. One set will be installed onto Samson for evaluation. The other set might be on your car?


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Or are you making a 2.65 into a limited slip somehow? Is that where the mention of making tools comes from?
There are no easy solutions for this.

Option 1 - Find a 126 diff from a European 126 with the 2.65 gear ratio. extremely rare. I found one in Au but $500 to ship.

Option 2 - Purchase the following: US spec 126 or 107 diff for the case and hopefully good clutches, US spec 124 or early 129 diff for the 2.65 gearset. US spec 126 350SDL diff for the limited slip carrier. Put it all together to make the standard 126 Euro 2.65 Franken diff. This could be doable for < $1000.

Option 3 Sames as option 2 but replace the 350SDL purchase with a Quaife or Wavetrac carrier. this build will be over $2000.


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Speaking of differentials... Are you building this one with the earlier subframe? Or a Gen2? I've been looking at the possibility of putting a gen2 LSD (with whole gen2 subframe) into one of my Gen1 cars, and it looks like only the diff mount could be an issue. Maybe there's more that I'm unaware of.
I'm building only gen 2. If your differential chassis mount looks like the one pictured then my bet is the gen2 rear will fit into the gen1 cars. But I cannot deny or confirm.
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