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Looking for brand recommendations for a back yard built-in gas grill. Natural gas. The sort of gas that comes out the pipe not out of a bottle. 36 to 42 inches.

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Whatever you do DO NOT buy a Coleman.

Several years ago, back in Australia, I bought a very expensive American made stainless steel BBQ grill, massive beast.

Within 18 months the thing had started to rust (yes a stainless steel appliance with rust) and had to sue them as they refused to warranty it saying I had 'breached my duty of care to the BBQ by living too close to the sea'.

The Judge when I sued them could not stop laughing at their claim. They never turned up to court so I got awarded the full purchase cost of the BBQ back and they did pay up.
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I've got a 15 year old Weber in the yard that I use year round, starting to show signs of wear
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I'd take a long look at Weber also. Incidentally, any grill can be made for natural gas by just changing the orifice's in the burners. My Weber is about 30 years old. Last year I rebuilt it with new burners. Cost all of $115 for the set.
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Whatever you do DO NOT buy a Coleman.

Several years ago, back in Australia, I bought a very expensive American made stainless steel BBQ grill, massive beast.

Within 18 months the thing had started to rust (yes a stainless steel appliance with rust) and had to sue them as they refused to warranty it saying I had 'breached my duty of care to the BBQ by living too close to the sea'.

The Judge when I sued them could not stop laughing at their claim. They never turned up to court so I got awarded the full purchase cost of the BBQ back and they did pay up.
Good job the defence barrister didn't do his homework. Chloride (as in sodium chloride or salt) stress corrosion cracking is a real problem with stainless steel, especially the more common lower chromium alloys used for things like grills. Luckily we're 60 or 70 miles from the Gulf of Mexico.

Weber sounds good but there are an awful lot of really expensive "boutique" brand out there.

I don't want a Rolls Royce or a Kia either. Somewhere around Mercedes and certainly not a here today gone tomorrow brand I can't get new knobs or whatever for in a few years time.

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Get a few sticks of wood or a used tire and a shopping cart.
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Propane is C3H8. Methane is CH4. Pipe gas is methane.

So if I've got this right the oxidation equations are:

C3H8 + 7O2 = 3CO2 + 4H2O

And

CH4 + 3O2 = CO2 + 2H2O

Upshot is propane burners have to let in half as much (mole for mole) gas or thereabouts as natural gas ones, or put the other way, twice as much air, which is why you need to change the nozzles or burners for natural gas. The real danger comes when you switch the other way: too little O2 leads to carbon monoxide.

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One to five ratio of propane to oxygen.
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And alternative to gas is wrapping your dinning in tinfoil and stuffing it in the manifold of the Benz and do a few laps of the hood, or you could do it right and buy charcoal.

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