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Time to retire my E30 325is and have a bead on a 72 model non turbo, the only one I like because is has circle tail lights. About 10 years ago I had one but it never hit the road. This one is in need of reassembly due to previous owner starting the tear down of trim for restore. This of course makes it a perfect candidate because I'd never mutilate one in good order.

My question is how are the road manners, can you flick it around tight bends, or is the stock powerplant too wimpy to snap around cones. I have seen them used on circuit races but never seen one at SOLO events. Any previous owners with feedback? I intend on finding go fast bits and upgrading suspension, maybe even make it a widebody to mimic race ready ones since it's in such dire shape at the moment.





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My first car was a 71 2002Tii and absolutely loved it! Been 30+ years when I got rid of it and that is one of the cars I still kick myself for selling.

Loved pretty much everything about it. Handled great, enough power to move pretty briskly (at least for a young guy it was) etc. Probably not the fastest one out there anymore, but for what it was back in the day, it was pretty awesome.

It's a great starting point for what you are thinking and if the speed is not enough for you, there are plenty of options to pump it up.

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I had a '76 2002. They have a very short wheelbase for a front engine rear drive car. I think a built 2.0L with Megasquirt and some thoughtful headwork could move such a machine quite nicely for the track. Turbo would need some real tweaking in order to get the boost to function low enough in the RPM band to work on the track. They have the most unique valve adjusters of any engine I've serviced. Fun cars--many great memories
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Also for autoX, I'd want an engine that produced peak torque down low, so a VAG 1.8t engine would be perfect, since it produces peak torque at about 1800rpm and then maintains a very high and broad torque band up to 4k rpms. Perfect for a coned track
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The engine in it is seized. He's offering the M10 engine from the white e21 parked next to it, but it's not the 2.0, but rather a 1.8. I have 2 spare M20's with manual transmissions from my e30. A supercharged M10 is what I was thinking or sidedraft Webbers.
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The engine in it is seized. He's offering the M10 engine from the white e21 parked next to it, but it's not the 2.0, but rather a 1.8. I have 2 spare M20's with manual transmissions from my e30. A supercharged M10 is what I was thinking or sidedraft Webbers.
Most naturally aspirated performance four cylinders are designed to produce their peak torque at really high RPMs, so they're ill-suited for a course where you're constantly trying to launch out of a tight corner onto yet another tight corner a couple of meters away.

This torque curve is what you want for the Cone-Dome

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The engine in it is seized. He's offering the M10 engine from the white e21 parked next to it, but it's not the 2.0, but rather a 1.8. I have 2 spare M20's with manual transmissions from my e30. A supercharged M10 is what I was thinking or sidedraft Webbers.
Go for the 45 Webbers. Years ago I rallied a Renault Gordini and my mate had a 2002, both with a brace of 45's. The induction howl of those things at full tilt was only rivaled by the animal scream of the 911 Porches of the time. Although the Kompressor sure does make some nice noises when I get to drive it without wife.
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