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08-10-2019 02:28 AM
Teutone
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Certainly not.

I completely agree with what Brian Redman says about making such a big deal about today‘s “Eau Rouge“ in Spa-Francorchamps. It has been straightened a lot and the slope (“Raidillon“, which in non-Belgian media is usually falsly regarded as being part of “Eau Rouge“) that follows it has been flattened a lot compared to how it was when the 917‘s were driven there. The “Eau Rouge - Raidillon“ section was incomparably more difficult in those days … yet it was not the most difficult section of the old Spa-Francorchamps circuit for F1 & prototype sports cars. As Brian Redman says, the most difficult was the “Masta Kink“ which the 917‘s approached at speeds higher than any F1 car has ever reached on any race track up to this day (!) … no matter how smooth the track was/is.

That kink was (and still is) part of the country road between Malmedy & Stavelot (with houses, trees, lamp posts & bus stops a few feet away from the road). They approached that kink at ~240 mph. Never have I ever seen anything more spectacular on 4 wheels than the 917‘s approaching and flying through the “Masta Kink“ … almost 50 years ago !

I deem it impossible that any of today‘s F1 drivers would ever dare to do what these people did in those days.
I think, these were all the videos Peter Windsor made re the old Spa circuit https://www.benzworld.org/forums/mer...l#post17330546
08-07-2019 12:05 AM
H.D. Racing on the old Spa-Francorchamps circuit was pure road racing … far more spectacular than what you see there today. Only two sections of that track are still more or less unchanged; the section from La Source down to Eau Rouge (along the original pit lane) and several hundred meters after Raidillon. The “Eau Rouge - Raidillon“ section is only a pale reflection of what it used to be.

We still talk about memories of the 1960‘s & 70‘s Spa-Francorchamps at get-togethers with old friends & relatives. … Denis Jenkinson said in the early 70‘s that who wins at Spa-Francorchamps should be declared world champion, independent of the performance at the other races of the season.
08-06-2019 08:56 AM
Noodles This should be it or a portion of it.

08-04-2019 07:21 PM
Teutone
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Originally Posted by H.D. View Post
Certainly not.

I completely agree with what Brian Redman says about making such a big deal about today‘s “Eau Rouge“ in Spa-Francorchamps. It has been straightened a lot and the slope (“Raidillon“, which in non-Belgian media is usually falsly regarded as being part of “Eau Rouge“) that follows it has been flattened a lot compared to how it was when the 917‘s were driven there. The “Eau Rouge - Raidillon“ section was incomparably more difficult in those days … yet it was not the most difficult section of the old Spa-Francorchamps circuit for F1 & prototype sports cars. As Brian Redman says, the most difficult was the “Masta Kink“ which the 917‘s approached at speeds higher than any F1 car has ever reached on any race track up to this day (!) … no matter how smooth the track was/is.

That kink was (and still is) part of the country road between Malmedy & Stavelot (with houses, trees, lamp posts & bus stops a few feet away from the road). They approached that kink at ~240 mph. Never have I ever seen anything more spectacular on 4 wheels than the 917‘s approaching and flying through the “Masta Kink“ … almost 50 years ago !

I deem it impossible that any of today‘s F1 drivers would ever dare to do what these people did in those days.
I remember the 2 part video (somewhere on here) Peter Windsor made about the old Spa track including Masta Kink.
I think he even did a drive with Lewis Hamilton in the car where Lewis expresses his appreciation of the Masta Kink.
Cheers
08-04-2019 12:23 PM
H.D.
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Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
They don't make them like that anymore
Certainly not.

I completely agree with what Brian Redman says about making such a big deal about today‘s “Eau Rouge“ in Spa-Francorchamps. It has been straightened a lot and the slope (“Raidillon“, which in non-Belgian media is usually falsly regarded as being part of “Eau Rouge“) that follows it has been flattened a lot compared to how it was when the 917‘s were driven there. The “Eau Rouge - Raidillon“ section was incomparably more difficult in those days … yet it was not the most difficult section of the old Spa-Francorchamps circuit for F1 & prototype sports cars. As Brian Redman says, the most difficult was the “Masta Kink“ which the 917‘s approached at speeds higher than any F1 car has ever reached on any race track up to this day (!) … no matter how smooth the track was/is.

That kink was (and still is) part of the country road between Malmedy & Stavelot (with houses, trees, lamp posts & bus stops a few feet away from the road). They approached that kink at ~240 mph. Never have I ever seen anything more spectacular on 4 wheels than the 917‘s approaching and flying through the “Masta Kink“ … almost 50 years ago !

I deem it impossible that any of today‘s F1 drivers would ever dare to do what these people did in those days.
08-03-2019 11:36 PM
Teutone They don't make them like that anymore
08-02-2019 01:45 AM
H.D. Here‘s an amusing video with Brian Redman talking about his F1 & prototype sports car racing career in the 60‘s & 70‘s. … Brings back a lot of memories of that, IMO, great motorsport era. …

05-29-2019 11:23 PM
Teutone
Martin Brundle reunited with championship-winning Jaguar XJR-12

Martin Brundle and the Jaguar XJR go back a long way.

For the first time in 29 years, Martin Brundle is reunited with one of his Jaguar XJR-12s for a

04-12-2019 08:16 PM
Teutone
Adrian Newey: Royal Automobile Club Talk Show

Adrian Newey: Royal Automobile Club Talk Show

08-15-2018 05:22 AM
H.D.
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I was recently reminded that when the front inner wheel was up, it frequently hovered slightly past the sharp end of the apex, just slightly off road over grass etc, and the best drivers used the leg up characteristic of these cars to make the road 'slightly wider.'
… and the curve radius a little bigger, the apex speed a little higher and the circuit a little shorter. ...
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