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01-07-2018 05:52 PM
bigsky If you have the time/space, and willingness to learn I would recommend painting it yourself. Three years ago I had little to no painting/bodywork experience.
Pic #1 is my 84 280SL painted three years ago. Local paint shop wanted $3000 just to spray the shell, with me doing all bodywork, taping, and all finish/polish work. Decided to do it all myself.

Pic #2, Painted 2 years ago is the 78 CD.

Pic #3-#6 Last years project, 84 CD

Learned more with every car painted, still making many mistakes. Even with all the tools/supplies that I have bought, probably do not have $7000 into all three cars. work slows down up here in the winter, so I have time to take on a project each year.
01-07-2018 02:52 PM
innovation560
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Originally Posted by Dr.Grillz View Post
Yes, I had to drop the headliner in order to reach the bolts that keep the rails secured to the roof. I stripped out the interior to do a proper paint (not to see new and old paint lines) and to be able to clean out the interior properly. Also had to purchase new seals for the rails where it meets the roof. I learned the rear most seal was NLA, so I reused mine as it was still good.

Wagon-specific rubber are also expensive. Rear door seals and hatch seals were a couple hundred per seal. Don't remember the exact cost, and don't want to remember... but they're written down somewhere.

You'll find that coupe seals are no bargain compared to sedans. I would recommend not messing with complete removal of all parts like I did.... you'll find parts that can break on re-install. Coupe parts being difficult to find and expensive, you may regret it if not careful.
PM sent.

Didn't want to hijack thread.
01-07-2018 01:54 PM
Dr.Grillz Yes, I had to drop the headliner in order to reach the bolts that keep the rails secured to the roof. I stripped out the interior to do a proper paint (not to see new and old paint lines) and to be able to clean out the interior properly. Also had to purchase new seals for the rails where it meets the roof. I learned the rear most seal was NLA, so I reused mine as it was still good.

Wagon-specific rubber are also expensive. Rear door seals and hatch seals were a couple hundred per seal. Don't remember the exact cost, and don't want to remember... but they're written down somewhere.

You'll find that coupe seals are no bargain compared to sedans. I would recommend not messing with complete removal of all parts like I did.... you'll find parts that can break on re-install. Coupe parts being difficult to find and expensive, you may regret it if not careful.
01-07-2018 01:33 PM
innovation560
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Originally Posted by Dr.Grillz View Post
I am in the process of putting back a S123 and I learned quiet a bit about proper paint jobs. There's a big range in costs, and if done "properly", it will also mean new rubber seals/gaskets, clips and rivets. I also spent approximately $700 for just the CLEAR COAT. You don't want to go through a thorough repaint and cheap out on materials. I probably won't be doing another paint job like this in the future unless the car is something special and unique. Might be better at that point to sell what you have and find a better example.

Pictured is my S123 prior to paint. You can see what was removed to do a proper paint job. I might have just pulled the motor, but stopped short.
Painting the wagon is no joke! I assume the headliner had to be removed to get the roof rack off.

You make a very valid point regarding rubber bits etc. I'm going to replace quite a bit of seals and rubber on the CD which I've already priced. Betting the seals, rubber etc cost more than the paint material and labor...
01-07-2018 01:21 PM
Dr.Grillz I am in the process of putting back a S123 and I learned quiet a bit about proper paint jobs. There's a big range in costs, and if done "properly", it will also mean new rubber seals/gaskets, clips and rivets. I also spent approximately $700 for just the CLEAR COAT. You don't want to go through a thorough repaint and cheap out on materials. I probably won't be doing another paint job like this in the future unless the car is something special and unique. Might be better at that point to sell what you have and find a better example.

Pictured is my S123 prior to paint. You can see what was removed to do a proper paint job. I might have just pulled the motor, but stopped short.
01-07-2018 12:54 PM
6punkt3
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Originally Posted by cBlonde300D View Post
I am based in Los Angeles CA and just drove to a Car Paint Shop to get a verbal
quote for my W123 so I can get an idea how long it will take me to save money.

The gentleman said that he would only do it the "right" way meaning he
needs to strip the old paint off and considering size of car etc. it would be 7G's.
Now I was expecting 5G's at the worst so I was wondering if anybody else got
a fairly recent Paint Job that included stripping the old paint. I understand that
thing are more expensive here in LA since people her love regulations taxes etc.
but 7G's still surprised me.

Please let me know if you have any comparable data / quotes.

thanks
georgeo
I need to get a few cars painted myself and have found out that the environment gestapo (EPA/AQB) here in CA have outlawed all DECENT paint, so your result will only last a couple of years, no matter how much work and money you throw at it !!

UNLESS , ....PM me.
01-07-2018 12:51 PM
6punkt3
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Originally Posted by oldmako View Post
I have no idea what the paint is. It was done long before I bought the car and the guy I bought it from had no idea either. It's been in the sun plenty for the last two years.
I am living in the high Desert in California with 320 or so sunny days every year.
All the fancy paint jobs are coming off in sheets these days...
Probably will be years before it will happen to yours, just saying , keep it waxed and try to avoid it being outside, is all I am saying, it's too nice to let go....
01-07-2018 12:44 PM
oldmako I have no idea what the paint is. It was done long before I bought the car and the guy I bought it from had no idea either. It's been in the sun plenty for the last two years.
01-07-2018 12:29 PM
6punkt3
Looks good.

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Originally Posted by oldmako View Post
There are a handful of things in cars where you need to dig deep and drop the coin. Unless of course, you know a guy....

If I were having a car painted, I'd want to see several cars painted by that shop in order to gauge their work.

ANYONE can paint a car and make it look nice from 50 feet.

Case in point, two years ago I bought a repainted car with a phenomenal phinish. Ordinarily, I would never consider a car with a recent respray out of fear of what has been covered up. But this car showed evidence of age in the paint. Age brings out the shit in a paintjob...the bondo, the rust. On this car, the valence panel below the headlamps is beat to hell with road grit, as is the leading edge of the hood. Apparently, the PO liked to drive fast and likely tailgated slow mofo's. It took a lot of time for that damage to occur so I figured that the paint job was already several years old. So I bought it. The paint is astonishing and must have cost someone a fortune. I spent a few hours with a buffer and some 3M Finessit to make it pop. It actually looks better now than it did when I bought it. Try that with a cheap MAACO paint job.

Long story short, whatever the PO paid to paint my car was worth it. Sometimes you get what you pay for and a high-quality paint job is very expensive.

Check out the reflections.
Nice paint , BUT ?
Two stage with clear coat water based paint ?
Better keep it out of the sun....
01-07-2018 12:16 PM
oldmako I don't. Ever since they closed Ocean Eddies (enjoying The Snard Brothers Band while all the ladies danced ON the bar!), The Duck Inn and The Beach Grill - I just imbibe on the homefront. Guess I'm showing my age!

Just like me, this town is really slippin' downhill.
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